I flagged this article and I think others should too. Here's why: We don't HAVE enough data points yet. Can't trust anything coming out of China and the incubation time is a couple weeks. If you look to Iran -- it's a mess. Downplaying this entire thing is the reason why we've seen this virus pop up all over the US. No one is taking quarantining seriously.
Mass hysteria is making coronavirus worse than it is
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#12I will counter: How can you not feel bit of panic when you see coronavirus cases being reported daily from all parts of the World where travel is common or where there is large population? Then you have excellent leadership in Iran which knowingly hides their coronavirus situation and thus have exported the virus to poor and incapable places like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq? Heck, compared to Iran, even Pakistan is b…
Because the curve is almost not rising, even in linear form ( I thought it was logarithmic even before yesterday). The amount of casualties seem to be in control. Okay, Iran is acting stupid. But we don't even do business with them. Tourism is minimal. Hell, I'd even prefer to get it, so I'm over it ( 32 years old)
The outbreak in China is indeed somewhat (maybe even largely) under control. But if you look at the trend in cases outside China, the growth is still clearly exponential [0].
[0]: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-cases/...
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#13The author is not an epidemiologist, and does not appear to have any other relevant expertise to assess the situation. The people who do have that expertise consistently say that it is very serious. Cases have declined in China only because of the extreme measures they undertook to stop it. (In other words, "hysteria.")
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#14I think this shows how much people trust their government and system overall, and how much they just consume junk media like twitter, FB etc. of these days.
Here in Switzerland, I see practically no change apart from few people on streets wearing masks (by few I mean like 2 today, for the first time since months). No panic shopping, our company is not going crazy just doing what seems adequate (extra hand disinfection available, there was a question of checking if remote works OK if needed). Shops have +-same amount of people, nobody binge shopping, all is available (apart from useless face masks in pharmacies, of course). Bear in mind that in my town we have at least 5 cases, could be more (not following this closely, what would be the point apart from getting into negative mental spiral).
Same look in France just across the border - big shopping centres seems exactly same as before. Went last weekend to Grenoble and ended up shopping at Carrefour there - again, business as usual. Nobody checking anything at EU borders, in nor out.
Back home in Eastern europe, some folks are going a bit mental and things for sure look a bit differently there.
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#15I don't know - a 15% mortality rate for 80+ year olds is pretty bad. Or do their lives not count? Or are we not responsible for trying to slow the spread?
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#16Anecdotally, I see attitudes among friends and family towards Coronavirus split along the same lines as whether they support or despise Trump.
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#17The author is not an epidemiologist, and does not appear to have any other relevant expertise to assess the situation. The people who do have that expertise consistently say that it is very serious. Cases have declined in China only because of the extreme measures they undertook to stop it. (In other words, "hysteria.")
There is a difference between an epidemiologist doing their job and the media over-hyping the situation to deal with a slow news week.
The medical community should absolutely be in high gear right now. That doesn't mean the rest of us need to act like its an end of the world situation.
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#18I flagged this article and I think others should too. Here's why: We don't HAVE enough data points yet. Can't trust anything coming out of China and the incubation time is a couple weeks. If you look to Iran -- it's a mess. Downplaying this entire thing is the reason why we've seen this virus pop up all over the US. No one is taking quarantining seriously.
Flagged also. This is pretty close to active disinformation.
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#19The author is not an epidemiologist, and does not appear to have any other relevant expertise to assess the situation. The people who do have that expertise consistently say that it is very serious. Cases have declined in China only because of the extreme measures they undertook to stop it. (In other words, "hysteria.")
>Cases have declined in China only because of the extreme measures they undertook to stop it.
I mean, you can't really say the author can't assess the situation because of a lack of expertise, and then immediately assess the situation with a lack of expertise.
I'm assuming that the quarantine helped, but also it might not have helped. That might have just been the natural progression of this disease. We don't know, and you can't claim that as a statement of fact.
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Because the curve is almost not rising, even in linear form ( I thought it was logarithmic even before yesterday). The amount of casualties seem to be in control. Okay, Iran is acting stupid. But we don't even do business with them. Tourism is minimal. Hell, I'd even prefer to get it, so I'm over it ( 32 years old)
The outbreak in China is indeed somewhat (maybe even largely) under control. But if you look at the trend in cases outside China, the growth is still clearly exponential [0]. [0]: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-cases/...
Are you sure you looked correctly?
Newly Infected vs. Newly Recovered is the one you want.
Ps. I'm using the same site, you should check how much influence Iran has in your quick-check. Also South Korea and I wouldn't be suprised with North-Korea to popup either.
It seems to be that the WHO had the correct actions for pandemics ( I was positively suprised when looking at the actual numbers). The cases in Europe are staying pretty low.