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Re: Ask HN: How do I escape webdev?

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> I basically want to get as far away from Node and React and CSS as possible. What's a good path out? .net core or spring boot?

If it's going to be .net, give Blazor a try: https://dotnet.microsoft.com/apps/aspnet/web-apps/blazor.

Still, this does not completely skip de design/style part.

Re: Ask HN: How do I escape webdev?

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post #14

So you want to write spagetti in another language because webdev is getting too difficult? In my opinion one should strive to learn their craft well, and if you havent by now, you should very quickly educate yourself out of writing bad code. Otherwise it's a habit that keeps you feeling bad about you and your code and hold you at disadvantage against that competition you are so worried about. But if you think a break…

Honestly it sounds more like OP is stuck int the bad code trap because they work alone. Couple that with web dev and of course the world would seem bleak. Frontend code can be beautiful and maintainable but not having senior people to help you even know what that means sounds frustrating to me. my vote is to join a company as an intern/junior and grow.

Re: Ask HN: How do I escape webdev?

#27
get your cissp or oscp cert and go into the infosec sector. you make a ton of money and are basically in a managerial role so there is little hands on and zero coding.

get a cloud cert in aws, azure or google and basically do dev ops at a large scale. again... tons of money and zero web development.

Re: Ask HN: How do I escape webdev?

#28
I understand you. I am also self-taught webdev working in small company with loooots of legacy/scary code behind us.

I somewhat lost interest in new cool frameworks/technologies and somewhat stagnated in "JQuery era".

For me, these three ideas helped:

1) have life outside work. Have some hobbbies/friends/social activities. Do not try to find meaning in work.

2) do something completely different with computers. For example - I started making computer music, coding my own VST instruments in Csound etc...

3) try new technologies in meaningful project. Not just code for code sake. For example: I am currently implementing custom point of sales system for friend who is curating gallery. In this system I have tried to use Vue.js and found it very useful.

Re: Ask HN: How do I escape webdev?

#29
post #14

So you want to write spagetti in another language because webdev is getting too difficult? In my opinion one should strive to learn their craft well, and if you havent by now, you should very quickly educate yourself out of writing bad code. Otherwise it's a habit that keeps you feeling bad about you and your code and hold you at disadvantage against that competition you are so worried about. But if you think a break…

Honestly it sounds more like OP is stuck int the bad code trap because they work alone. Couple that with web dev and of course the world would seem bleak. Frontend code can be beautiful and maintainable but not having senior people to help you even know what that means sounds frustrating to me. my vote is to join a company as an intern/junior and grow.

100%. I worked alone for a few years. Again self taught web development. I tried to read the “best practices” for the languages I was learning. But it was bugs galore and code I feared maintaining after release.

I then spent 5 months at a company in a team where every bit of code went through a peer review process. Even I was responsible for reviewing others code. I learnt a hell of a lot, we barely had any bugs and if we found a bug, it was usually easy to fix. Since then, writing maintainable and (importantly) readable code is my standard and I try and help other Devs do the same.

Re: Ask HN: How do I escape webdev?

#30
You mention burnout in another comment thread here. With that often comes a feeling of powerlessness and apathy.

"Escaping webdev" is the easy part --- you just need to quit. But doing so is only a transition away from something. We need to find what you should transition toward, instead.

What are your skills that you still feel at least somewhat passionate about? And how can we turn that into a future career?

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