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Re: Love Zombies? Thank the Public Domain

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imo copyright should last 30 years from creation. Thats plenty of time to make a profit and it also allows things to fall in to public domain while they are still culturally relevant. Currently anything made within your lifetime will not be public until well after you have died which is a shame. It would be great if all of the past content which is now slipping in to irrelevancy could be revived by the public domain.

> It would be great if all of the past content which is now slipping in to irrelevancy could be revived by the public domain.

Would it though? Go see torrents that are 10-15 years old and look at how many are still being seed.

Sure making it legal to distribute will make it easier to go on more device, but hosting content is not cheap. Web Archive is trying to host everything they currently can, and it doesn't seems that easy.

They are slipping into irrelevancy because there's something else to consume, that's all. Removing copyright may bring them back a bit, they would still slip into irrelevancy, because the same reason will still apply.

People want fresh content, that's actually a huge reason which push people to pirate because they can't wait for the content to reach streaming platforms. That's all.

I would love for copyright terms to be shorter though. As a native french speaker, there's so many translation from my youth that are lost in limbo because of copyrights. I'm from Quebec and to preserve Quebec translation of Pokemon, I had to buy a bunch of VHS and I'm about to digitize them to preserve them.

I think a reform of copyright that consider theses things should be made. If the content isn't available at all, there should be a way to consider it public domain. How can you consider it good for profit when a work isn't being profited on. After a set amount of time, if there was no way to consume the content in a reasonable way (because I'm sure company would simply say that they would be happy to sell license to the content for 7 figures), that it should go to public domain.

Re: Love Zombies? Thank the Public Domain

#92

I did an exam in European and International Copyright Law in college even though I studied Computer Science. Based on my knowledge this whole story about forgetting the copyright logo and entering the publich domain sounds like a myth/fictional. Copyright of movies covers the video frames but it does not cover the concept of the story. The only part that could be protected are maybe fictional names of characters, cit…

I thought the same as you, but I think what they means is that it lack of copyright made the zombie concept popular, not that it allowed to make more Zombie movies. If you can distribute a good movie without any copyright, for sure you'll do it instead of one that will be more costly.

Re: Love Zombies? Thank the Public Domain

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post #91

imo copyright should last 30 years from creation. Thats plenty of time to make a profit and it also allows things to fall in to public domain while they are still culturally relevant. Currently anything made within your lifetime will not be public until well after you have died which is a shame. It would be great if all of the past content which is now slipping in to irrelevancy could be revived by the public domain.

> It would be great if all of the past content which is now slipping in to irrelevancy could be revived by the public domain. Would it though? Go see torrents that are 10-15 years old and look at how many are still being seed. Sure making it legal to distribute will make it easier to go on more device, but hosting content is not cheap. Web Archive is trying to host everything they currently can, and it doesn't seems…

> Go see torrents that are 10-15 years old and look at how many are still being seed

You're on the wrong trackers. Public, legal trackers would have NO problem with this. Every single movie would be available, no problem.

Re: Love Zombies? Thank the Public Domain

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post #91

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> It would be great if all of the past content which is now slipping in to irrelevancy could be revived by the public domain. Would it though? Go see torrents that are 10-15 years old and look at how many are still being seed. Sure making it legal to distribute will make it easier to go on more device, but hosting content is not cheap. Web Archive is trying to host everything they currently can, and it doesn't seems…

> Go see torrents that are 10-15 years old and look at how many are still being seed You're on the wrong trackers. Public, legal trackers would have NO problem with this. Every single movie would be available, no problem.

> Public, legal trackers would have NO problem with this.

How can you tell that? What would make legal content more likely to be supported by the seeders? Believe me, none of the seeders ever asked themselves whether holding that data was legal or not in the decision on whether they keep it. Private trackers solve this issue by rewarding people that does keep seeding them, I guess supporting that kind of private community could allow to support older content, but there will always be an effort/gain that will be considered.

For something to keep being seeded require someone to still want to seed it. There's just too much content to care about and not enough people caring about it though. People want what's new, not what's old, so they go that way instead and abandon the older things.

I have no doubt that I could find a bunch of royalty free content that just can no longer be found anywhere, even with Web Archive goal to archive everything.

The legality of it doesn't affect how people act with content.

Re: Love Zombies? Thank the Public Domain

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post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Go see torrents that are 10-15 years old and look at how many are still being seed You're on the wrong trackers. Public, legal trackers would have NO problem with this. Every single movie would be available, no problem.

> Public, legal trackers would have NO problem with this. How can you tell that? What would make legal content more likely to be supported by the seeders? Believe me, none of the seeders ever asked themselves whether holding that data was legal or not in the decision on whether they keep it. Private trackers solve this issue by rewarding people that does keep seeding them, I guess supporting that kind of private comm…

> Private trackers solve this issue by rewarding people that does keep seeding them

Exactly. Why don't you think this would work if things were more legal?

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