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Re: Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions?

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Post by keiru »

Recursing wrote: post #328
cycrutchfield wrote: post #298

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"It can't possibly happen here!" says increasingly nervous man.

Hi! Are you following me from the other thread? o.o It's not "It can't possibly happen here!", more like "it hasn't happened in any place in western Europe in recent memory". We've had major earthquakes and stuff, but nothing that "stocking food" would have been useful for, (afaik)

Which brings us back to the matter at hand; devastating plagues have happened many times in Europe. This one is probably not going to be devastating, but we really don't know the effect of this disruption in today's society.

Re: Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions?

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Post by exclusiv »

lurquer wrote: post #232
exclusiv wrote: post #112

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I had to go to the ER for my son and it was already full of sick people for flu season. So no, you don't probably wouldn't get the care all to yourself. There were also way more masks in use than the last time I had to go.

You sure about that? I bet if you showed up and tested positive for COVID-19 you'd be given an entire floor to yourself. Definitely your own room. At least for now...

Yes you are right about that. I'm just saying the resources aren't necessarily going to drop everything they are doing because of corona virus. They still have to triage the ER. Flu is very serious for youth and elderly and ERs are quite full.

Re: Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions?

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jerf wrote: post #150
exclusiv wrote: post #108

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I've been doing that but what happens when you released your germs into your elbow/sleeve? It wouldn't get cleaned or sanitized until you wash your clothes. So I think if you are near a sink, it would probably be better to cover nose and mouth with hand and then clean right away. But yeah, I usually do the vampire method when I'm on the go.

"I've been doing that but what happens when you released your germs into your elbow/sleeve?" The idea is that they stay there, rather than floating through the air and infecting someone else. While "lots of germs in your sleeve" may trigger our disgust reaction, they aren't a problem until they actually get somewhere where they can reproduce. Our disgust reaction is useful and there for a reason, but a little unfocus…

Right, but let's say someone grabs your arm, maybe a child. Or you cross your own arms not thinking about it and back on your hands. That's what I was curious about.

"Most germs can survive on fabrics for some time." [2]

And it seems some germs linger longer on clothes than skin!

"Respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), another cold-like virus that can cause serious illness in children, can survive on worktops and door handles for up to 6 hours, on clothing, and tissues for 30 to 45 minutes and on skin for up to 20 minutes." [1]

However, "Flu viruses can also survive as droplets in the air for several hours". [1]

But, "Parainfluenza virus, which causes croup in children, can survive for up to 10 hours on hard surfaces and up to 4 hours on soft surfaces." [1]

So there are no absolutes but it seems to me, the best would be in your hand and then immediately clean. But if that's not feasible, probably vampire style is best. Even though some germs could linger longer on your clothes than hands, if you can't clean your hands immediately then the contact spread risk factor would be worse than the extra linger time.

[1] https://www.nhs.uk/common-health-questions/infections/how-lo... [2] https://www.nhs.uk/common-health-questions/infections/can-cl...

Re: Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions?

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Post by radicalbyte »

craftinator wrote: post #396
radicalbyte wrote: post #324

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Talk to any bodybuilder and they'll tell you that for every 4kg of fat you lose you'll also drop 1kg of muscle. So yes it is mainly fat but some muscles will be lost at the same time, especially if you have a high muscle mass.

As a Marine who has gone through many, many building and leaning cycles, I call BS on this. When you drop that fat, you aren't actually losing muscular tissue (at least not much). I've gotten down to Olympian levels of body fat, 9-10%, and what you are losing besides the fat is water weight. Your muscles shrink because they hold in less blood; your body regulates this to keep blood pressure normalized with all the de…

I've always been a fat-ass (somewhere from 15-25% BF) so I've also never experienced considerable loss of muscle tissue (at least as far as the scales tell me) - however the body-builder club are at 6% body fat when cut and at what, 12-15% when bulking? They are absolutely going to metabolize muscle tissue when cutting.

Re: Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions?

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Post by radicalbyte »

polishdude20 wrote: post #556
craftinator wrote: post #396

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As a Marine who has gone through many, many building and leaning cycles, I call BS on this. When you drop that fat, you aren't actually losing muscular tissue (at least not much). I've gotten down to Olympian levels of body fat, 9-10%, and what you are losing besides the fat is water weight. Your muscles shrink because they hold in less blood; your body regulates this to keep blood pressure normalized with all the de…

Did you continue to work out while cutting? Because that reduces the muscle lost. If you're an average joe and you're starving yourself, your muscle will reduce comparably to fat.

As long as I'm able to lift weights I lift weights. I've never cut significantly though, I'm happy with 15% body fat as a lower bounds - I look good, feel good and am strong at that weight.

Maybe I'll try to drop to 12% to see if I can do it sometime, but I'm a long way from that right now (our third kid is 5 months old so I'm back to being a fat-ass).

Re: Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions?

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Post by Recursing »

keiru wrote: post #561
Recursing wrote: post #328

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi! Are you following me from the other thread? o.o It's not "It can't possibly happen here!", more like "it hasn't happened in any place in western Europe in recent memory". We've had major earthquakes and stuff, but nothing that "stocking food" would have been useful for, (afaik)

Which brings us back to the matter at hand; devastating plagues have happened many times in Europe. This one is probably not going to be devastating, but we really don't know the effect of this disruption in today's society.

Fully agree with this (especially considering the last few days), my disagreement was with the whole "prepping" thing, doesn't seem to be useful
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