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How many users block Google analytics? (2017)

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page load times go up

Unless you’re doing something silly a button can’t be more than a hundred bytes or so. That’s only significant on a 90s era cell phone. Then again most browsers have a print button.

There is also bloat from the UI perspective. If you keep adding features they will get harder for users to discover.

You have to delete something every once in a while to make room for something new.

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> I was expecting Firefox to be the largest, but it was a bit surprising to me that Safari and Chrome were approximately equal Don't forget about all those smartasses spoofing their user agent just to make your life even harder. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/random_user_a...

other smartasses runs sites that block firefox with "unsupported browser" message while the site's working perfectly fine

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When I turned off my Windows 10 Telemetry, I expressed a clear choice that I'd rather not give my data, and it's fine for my voice to not be heard. I just really don't care about Windows 10 that much. On the other hand, I turned on all the telemetry for OctoPi, Steam, and a bunch of other softwares I care about. I want my voice to be heard for those cases. Just curious, what's so inexcusable about that?

Customers should not have to surrender their information to be accounted for by the business they pay. Giving a business your data is an act of charity. It should never be an expectation. Yes, it costs more to collect the data manually. It usually costs more to behave ethically when you aren't legally required to.

Its not charity, I allow them to collect my data so that they can use it to improve the service.

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I run a non-tech eCommerce site in North America that does $6-8m a year and I tested two 90 day periods year over year and found 12.4% of transactions didn’t show up in Google Analytics. I haven’t segmented them by geo yet but about 75% of my sales are in North America. There was only a 0.1% difference year over year.

This is very similar to my experience. I recently measured the difference on my site as 10%-15% (also a non-tech site, though sadly not at $8m a year yet!)

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On the other hand, that’s a fairly entitled viewpoint. Users are using infrastructure I finance, to do things on the website(s) I created. If you want privacy from the services youre using, create or host your own. IANAL, but this is not legal under the GDPR. The GDPR requires op-in. Moreover, you cannot make non-anonymous[1] data collection mandatory to use a product, unless it is necessary for the product to functi…

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Good luck taking a vacation in the EU or (maybe) having to change planes after getting diverted.

As long as you stay away from the EU, they'll probably not touch for GDPR.

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I’m not sure I understand your point. It’s you who requests those resources, nobody pushes that data towards you. Are we debating adblockers? Because that is a different topic than server side log analysis and I agree that we should be picky about what we process (but it’s a thin line, you are using resources from the owner of that service though).

It’s you who requests those resources, That does not matter, at least in the EU where citizens are protected by the GDPR. Article 6 of the GDPR: Processing shall be lawful only if and to the extent that at least one of the following applies: (a) the data subject has given consent to the processing of his or her personal data for one or more specific purposes;

You are now changing the argument from a moral one to a legal one. The GDRP may or may not proscribe certain things, and it may be a good law or an unjust one.

However, OP does not understand why you are so entitled to want to use their website for free, and then also want to tell them that they is not allowed to make note of you having done so.

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Office telemetry is worse. There are many cases where your data goes up to Microsoft.

There are many cases where your DOCUMENT is uploaded to Microsoft. Much clearer.

I haven't heard of this, do you have any references?

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Customers should not have to surrender their information to be accounted for by the business they pay. Giving a business your data is an act of charity. It should never be an expectation. Yes, it costs more to collect the data manually. It usually costs more to behave ethically when you aren't legally required to.

Its not charity, I allow them to collect my data so that they can use it to improve the service.

Then you are being charitable.

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One of the corollaries to this is that if you are basing your decisions on analytics, you are probably under-representing people who block them, who often tend to be a non-representative subset of your users. I have seen multiple projects do things like stop supporting features that their analytics “showed nobody was using” but failed to realize that a significant portion of their (often technical and very vocal) use…

> Oh, and by the way, responding to these kinds of issues with “if you wanted your voice to be heard, you should have turned on analytics” is inexcusable. Some folks seem to think analytics is the only way to get feedback from users. Just ask me. Survey, email me directly, anything but siphoning all my data off to Google in the process.

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