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War story: we turned off the “print” button on MSN because it was unused. Users in Japan complained - they were printing articles to read on the train. Turned it back on in that geo
Are adblockers very prevalent in Japan?
How many users block Google analytics? (2017)
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Re: How many users block Google analytics? (2017)
#42This is why I have analytics on the JavaScript side and server side. I can calculate those who block my analytics and at the same time capture a lot of the relevant information
Subverting the desires of people who would like privacy is not a good look.
On the other hand, that’s a fairly entitled viewpoint.
Users are using infrastructure I finance, to do things on the website(s) I created. If you want privacy from the services youre using, create or host your own.
I keep the data secure and don’t give it to 3rd parties. That information is used to fix bugs, improve / build services, etc.
I’m not “subverting” privacy, users are coming to my house and playing with my things, so to speak.
Re: How many users block Google analytics? (2017)
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"Oh, and by the way, responding to these kinds of issues with “if you wanted your voice to be heard, you should have turned on analytics” is inexcusable." Authentic question: how would a business know this otherwise in an actionable and effective way?
Server-side analytics will tell you in most cases, and if they don’t, they’re easy to add in a way that makes them unlikely to be blocked?
Re: How many users block Google analytics? (2017)
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If you don’t want to give your information to a site, don’t use that site? That’s a very different proposition from not wanting to give your information to a third party.
This argument works equally well in both directions: if you don’t want people to modify your site with client-side scripting, don’t serve it to them.
Re: How many users block Google analytics? (2017)
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Subverting the desires of people who would like privacy is not a good look.
I mean, on the one hand I can see that view point — On the other hand, that’s a fairly entitled viewpoint. Users are using infrastructure I finance, to do things on the website(s) I created. If you want privacy from the services youre using, create or host your own. I keep the data secure and don’t give it to 3rd parties. That information is used to fix bugs, improve / build services, etc. I’m not “subverting” privac…
Until then, your HTML is interpreted by my browser, any resources are going over my network (and only my network if they're 3rd party) and the JavaScript is running on my machine . So I'll be having them obey my rules.
Re: How many users block Google analytics? (2017)
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Why not turn it back on for everyone? If you have to maintain the feature anyway, might as well offer it.
page load times go up
Then again most browsers have a print button.
Re: How many users block Google analytics? (2017)
#47This is why I have analytics on the JavaScript side and server side. I can calculate those who block my analytics and at the same time capture a lot of the relevant information
Subverting the desires of people who would like privacy is not a good look.
Re: How many users block Google analytics? (2017)
#48One of the corollaries to this is that if you are basing your decisions on analytics, you are probably under-representing people who block them, who often tend to be a non-representative subset of your users. I have seen multiple projects do things like stop supporting features that their analytics “showed nobody was using” but failed to realize that a significant portion of their (often technical and very vocal) use…
When I turned off my Windows 10 Telemetry, I expressed a clear choice that I'd rather not give my data, and it's fine for my voice to not be heard. I just really don't care about Windows 10 that much. On the other hand, I turned on all the telemetry for OctoPi, Steam, and a bunch of other softwares I care about. I want my voice to be heard for those cases. Just curious, what's so inexcusable about that?
Re: How many users block Google analytics? (2017)
#49This test compares: 1. Number of visitors as recorded in Google Analytics 2. Number of loads of a 1x1 pixel served on a different domain They see higher numbers for (2) than (1), and attribute the difference to users blocking Google Analytics. I don't see them describing how they excluded bot traffic, however, and for my sites the majority of hits I get are from bots. Only some bots run JS, so I suspect their numbers…
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Server-side analytics will tell you in most cases, and if they don’t, they’re easy to add in a way that makes them unlikely to be blocked?
Server side analytics are overwhelmed by bots and crawlers and other non humans in my experience