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Re: Ask HN: What should I try to do while still in college?

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Get heavily involved in a campus organization that suits your interests. If such an organization doesn't exist, start one.

I'm involved in two things: the newspaper, and this 'programming' group. The newspaper's been fun - I'm quite interested in the whole gambit of publishing. The programming group hasn't done anything because no one wants to spend time in it - I've been programming alone all my life, so it's no different if no one is doing it with me.

That's good to hear -- I ran a paper in college and it was an awesome experience. This is such a hugely transformational period in publishing that knowing the ins and outs of the business makes you aware of how many opportunities there are right now. My current startup is intended to help small magazines and campus publications establish an online presence and being able to draw on personal experience makes me way more confident in its ability to succeed.

But yeah, I was in a similar boat in terms of the ADHD and not fitting into the general party culture and everything kind of fell into place when I started focusing on doing stuff that was actually fun to do and not so much on stuff I assumed I was supposed to be doing (i.e., my homework).

Re: Ask HN: What should I try to do while still in college?

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If you want to do the startup thing, notice people who are smart and more ambitious than you and spend your time hanging around with them.

If you want to have your pick of a quality corporate job and find your excitement elsewhere, build something tangible you can point to during an interview. It doesn't have to be complicated, it just has to indicate that you can accomplish something on your own.

Remember that becoming an expert in anything takes 10 years, so assuming you are around 20, think about what you would like to be an expert at when you are 30 and start working on it regularly.

Edit: One more thing -- college can be one of the last times in your life when it is trivial to make new friends. Make as many as you can, and try to hang onto the good ones after you graduate.

Re: Ask HN: What should I try to do while still in college?

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I'm in the same boat you are, my friend. I'm taking two classes over the summer to start my Jr. year on time.While I can't give you advice from historical experience, I can tell you what I'm doing.

Right now I'm using this time to save up some money. I know that I ultimately want to start a company, but I don't know what type (startup, lifestyle) or even in what industry. I do know that I like technology, but I don't think that I would be able to use my skills to compete in that industry, though I may be able to use my knowledge there to give myself an advantage somewhere else. Right now I'm doing what I can to see what my interests are, so that I have a plan after college.

I see college as two things: A way to meet people and build my network, and a plan B should the "own my own business" plans fall through.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm involved in two things: the newspaper, and this 'programming' group. The newspaper's been fun - I'm quite interested in the whole gambit of publishing. The programming group hasn't done anything because no one wants to spend time in it - I've been programming alone all my life, so it's no different if no one is doing it with me.

That's good to hear -- I ran a paper in college and it was an awesome experience. This is such a hugely transformational period in publishing that knowing the ins and outs of the business makes you aware of how many opportunities there are right now. My current startup is intended to help small magazines and campus publications establish an online presence and being able to draw on personal experience makes me way mo…

Interesting - it is definitely an awesome time to be in publishing. I redid (as all freshmen tend to do) the paper's website, which was a huge learning experience.

A lot of publications seem to have problems getting themselves online - collegepublisher is the witness. So you seem to be in a viable area.

Most of the misery was from schoolwork, which is improving slowly. The social side is at a standstill, because I really don't like beer. It's a catch-22 from where I stand. I think I've always just focused on what was fun/interesting and ignored much else, which you can't do in college, at least academically. I want the liberal arts anti-focus, but of course didn't realize it would be this hard.

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If you're planning on a career in programming, I'd recommend trying to get an internship somewhere before you graduate. If you think you might want to start a startup, go that route, but it won't hurt to do an internship at a big company either (it's actually probably better than working at one after you graduate, but I wouldn't know first hand).

If you want to go the startup route, I'd recommend just sending emails to a bunch of startups you like. Most of them probably aren't actively seeking interns, but would be at least intrigued by the opportunity.

Re: Ask HN: What should I try to do while still in college?

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See what else is out there. Computers might be fascinating, but until you learn about a bunch of other fields, you will never know if they're what fascinates you most. Take as many classes as you can in as many areas as you're interested in, and be sure to take lots of classes outside your major. Finish more than one major. Join a sports team or club where you'll meet people you wouldn't otherwise. Save the specialization for your senior thesis, grad school, or for your job. Try to meet people with a wide variety of interests, so you can make a truly informed decision between majors and career paths.

Others may tell you to choose an field of study early on and become an expert. I definitely admire that goal, but I don't think college is the place. Most underclassmen have no idea what really interests them; I certainly didn't.

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If you want to do the startup thing, notice people who are smart and more ambitious than you and spend your time hanging around with them. If you want to have your pick of a quality corporate job and find your excitement elsewhere, build something tangible you can point to during an interview. It doesn't have to be complicated, it just has to indicate that you can accomplish something on your own. Remember that becom…

I don't think I'd be able to survive corporate. I had a summer job doing IT-ish things in a small accountancy a couple years ago, at the end of the two months I was about to kill myself from the boredom and monotony.

That expert advice is valuable - thank you. I'm currently interested in programming language theory (prompted by steve yegge), we'll see where that takes me.

I'm trying hard with the friends thing, but there are precious few who don't "submit" to the partying culture.

Re: Ask HN: What should I try to do while still in college?

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First off, since your a sophomore, your plans will change. Bet money on it. Don't get caught up in specifics of where you want to be. Instead take advantage of the powerful abstractions where you can to work out what "axioms of life" you want to design your life with. That's your homework assignment in the unwritten curriculum of the university. The vast majority of people fail that lesson, good folks recognize it and get it partially right, the great people master this lesson, implement, and refine it for the rest of their lives.

Always consider your personality. My regret may be exactly what you DON'T want to do. Having said that... Being a physics students at very good engineering school, and having participated in student design competitions my only regret is not having taken more pure mathematics. In science and engineering, if it works, there's your evidence. You have shown it can happen. Mathematics I viewed, at the time being so simple minded, as a set of neat tricks for solving physics problems (or engineering problems, which at the time I thought of simplistically as merely applied physics problems). The reason I regret not taking more pure math isn't the theorems or skills I missed getting, it was the mindset. Every profession and field looks at the world in a particularly special way. It's a more abstract version of the saying "If all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail." I'm actually doing research in graduate school now in mathematics and I'm really glad for it. The perspective from being a bit physicist, a bit engineer, and now a bit mathematician really gives one a lot of versatility, and that's where the variety of experience in the "hard subjects" pays off. You see, everyone who has specialized to be only one thing, think university professors, are like shaft mines. The specialists dig deep to get at the really rich seams, but they pass by a lot of pretty good stuff following the very richest dig through their subject. Take a bit more breath in your studies and you will see lots of good stuff, and how it's connected together.

Finally, have fun too. Every day of my undergraduate schooling was a cycle of learn, work, play, build, fight, drink, sleep, and repeat tomorrow. It's the best that could have happened in spite of being exhausting, all consuming, obsessive, and unrelenting. I loved it because to me that is fun.

Best of luck to you.

Re: Ask HN: What should I try to do while still in college?

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Do as much extracurricular stuff as you can manage with as much time as you can give it, in whatever interests you. I was also a CS major, and my free time went to theatre. I actually ended up with two degrees, the second one being theatre, so I guess for me it was a little more than extracurricular, but the point stands. Now that I'm out of college and have a wife and job, I find it infinitely more difficult to find time to do any acting/directing/etc, and it's something I really miss and I'm very glad I did it in college while I had the chance.

Might not be theatre for you, obviously. Might be music, might be hiking, might be journalism, might be Ultimate Frisbee playing, whatever. Find something that isn't related to what you'll end up doing 9-to-5 after you get out, and explore that thing.

EDIT: slackerIII's point about making new friends is also spot-on. Luckily, extra-curriculars can make that easier so the two tips go hand-in-hand. ;) The social atmosphere of college is completely unique (at least in American society; I realize you may or may not be US-ian), so open yourself up to it and take advantage.

Re: Ask HN: What should I try to do while still in college?

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Do EVERYTHING you can that will not be economically feasible (travel for a month or three) or even possible (spend a summer at Cambridge University in England). You will live to regret not doign these things when, after you get a job, you get two measly weeks of vacation per year.

Use it all up: take extra classes, join a club, make a friend from another race, etc...

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