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Officials: Dozens at WA nursing facility show possible coronavirus symptoms

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Re: Officials: Dozens at WA nursing facility show possible coronavirus symptoms

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themagician wrote: post #52
yingw787 wrote: post #31

I’m starting to take some precautionary measures even here in Virginia. Stocking up on food and other emergency supplies, avoiding public transit and walking everywhere, wiping down all surfaces I come in contact with with Clorox wipes I keep in my backpack. Hopefully I’m just going insane and there’s no reason to panic, but a respiratory illness with no treatment protocol besides quarantine, an r nought of probably…

Definitely sounds insane to me. Stop reading the news mate. >80% of cases are mild symptoms. A mild cold. Under 50 has a fatality rate of less than 0.5%. Almost all fatalities are over 70 or people who are already severely ill. You are about 25x more likely to die of the seasonal flu at this point. This is media hysteria in a post fact world where all information from all sources is equally valid. Everyone is trying…

> If you are 70+ or severely ill this IS pretty bad because, unlike the flu, their is literally no defense. If you don’t fit that profile it’s just a bunch of FUD.

The 34 year old Chinese doctor who spoke up about the virus died.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51403795

Re: Officials: Dozens at WA nursing facility show possible coronavirus symptoms

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Post by navels »

bsaul wrote: post #46
mcntsh wrote: post #20

HN is really buying into the media hysteria on this one. I would have expected more.

don't know why you got downvoted. I have yet to see the opinion of a doctor explaining why this virus requires specific measures compared to other types of flu-like viruses ( hint: friend working in a hospital recently told me doctors there are amazed by the frenzy on this topic, that looks to them exactly the same as other kinds of flu). It seems politics are forced to take the same kind of exceptional measures as i…

The King County press conference today included a Q&A where this very question was asked ("why this virus requires specific measures compared to other types of flu-like viruses"). According to Dr. Francis Riedo, Medical Director of Infection Control and Prevention at EvergreenHealth, to paraphrase, "The difference between this Novel Coronavirus and Influenza is (1) there is no innate immunity, it is a completely vulnerable population, (2) there is no vaccine to prevent it, and (3) there is no currently effective anti-viral therapy. It is a perfect storm for a novel virus to come out without a vaccine, population base protection, or an effective therapeutic agent."

Re: Officials: Dozens at WA nursing facility show possible coronavirus symptoms

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Post by s_y_n_t_a_x »

norswap wrote: post #55
s_y_n_t_a_x wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't seem that way looking at the numbers regarding the US. The US has and is handling it the best. The administration shut down travel earlier than any other country. There are much fewer cases than other countries even though we have a larger population, economic trade, and travel. There was already a travel ban from Iran to the US. This morning they just banned travel if you've ever been in Iran, so they don't…

Numbers don't mean much. You don't have confirmed cases if you don't test. The same is true pretty much everywhere however, not only the US. You'd have thought we would systematically test people from at-risk region, but apparently not.

> Numbers don't mean much.

Really?

> You don't have confirmed cases if you don't test.

There's appropriate testing. You and some media outlets are just fear mongering.

There's less testing overall because there's less risk because the US government quarantined it so well.

Other countries did and have not. Yes there have been some blunders, but that's human.

I don't think blanket statements politicizing the situation helps.

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Post by themagician »

meesterdude wrote: post #61
themagician wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Definitely sounds insane to me. Stop reading the news mate. >80% of cases are mild symptoms. A mild cold. Under 50 has a fatality rate of less than 0.5%. Almost all fatalities are over 70 or people who are already severely ill. You are about 25x more likely to die of the seasonal flu at this point. This is media hysteria in a post fact world where all information from all sources is equally valid. Everyone is trying…

> If you are 70+ or severely ill this IS pretty bad because, unlike the flu, their is literally no defense. If you don’t fit that profile it’s just a bunch of FUD. The 34 year old Chinese doctor who spoke up about the virus died. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51403795

That’s called an outlier.

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Post by yingw787 »

meesterdude wrote: post #61
themagician wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Definitely sounds insane to me. Stop reading the news mate. >80% of cases are mild symptoms. A mild cold. Under 50 has a fatality rate of less than 0.5%. Almost all fatalities are over 70 or people who are already severely ill. You are about 25x more likely to die of the seasonal flu at this point. This is media hysteria in a post fact world where all information from all sources is equally valid. Everyone is trying…

> If you are 70+ or severely ill this IS pretty bad because, unlike the flu, their is literally no defense. If you don’t fit that profile it’s just a bunch of FUD. The 34 year old Chinese doctor who spoke up about the virus died. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51403795

I’ve heard symptoms relate less with age and more with viral load. The sicker other people are and the more frequently you come in contact with them, the more lethal it becomes.

I’m checking reddit r/COVID19, which is a science based discussion forum with cited academic papers and flaired scientists. It started turning into a prepper forum but I think the mods are shutting that down pretty quickly. I go there for my news.

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Post by runawaybottle »

mcntsh wrote: post #20

HN is really buying into the media hysteria on this one. I would have expected more.

I think the attention is coming from the initial numbers reported by China about a month ago, went from 2k to 80k in about 3 weeks. Something about the numbers seem odd, along with large city quarantines. If you look at the confirmed cases, neighboring countries like Vietnam have 16 confirmed, but the US already has 69. Thailand and Taiwan have 30 confirmed cases each, but Iran already has 245.

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Post by daxfohl »

all_blue_chucks wrote: post #22

This hospital as about midway between Microsoft and Amazon headquarters. The governor just declared a state of emergency and authorized use of the national guard: https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/department-health-confirms-...

Google has a sizable Kirkland office. A good chunk of Google Cloud is there.

Also, rather ironically, Costco is headquartered there.

EDIT: Costco was founded there, but current hq is a few miles away in Issaquah.

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Post by tejtm »

baq wrote: post #39
wolco wrote: post #37

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I'm sure this is the reason. Not being honest about it is a problem.

Why didn’t they buy working kits from other countries though? They had weeks to do that.

Without being derogatory (only ironic); Made in China. That said it is a pandemic, those other countries are going to need their kits as much as anyone will.

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Post by [deleted] »

bsaul wrote: post #46
mcntsh wrote: post #20

HN is really buying into the media hysteria on this one. I would have expected more.

don't know why you got downvoted. I have yet to see the opinion of a doctor explaining why this virus requires specific measures compared to other types of flu-like viruses ( hint: friend working in a hospital recently told me doctors there are amazed by the frenzy on this topic, that looks to them exactly the same as other kinds of flu). It seems politics are forced to take the same kind of exceptional measures as i…

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Post by pugworthy »

themagician wrote: post #52
yingw787 wrote: post #31

I’m starting to take some precautionary measures even here in Virginia. Stocking up on food and other emergency supplies, avoiding public transit and walking everywhere, wiping down all surfaces I come in contact with with Clorox wipes I keep in my backpack. Hopefully I’m just going insane and there’s no reason to panic, but a respiratory illness with no treatment protocol besides quarantine, an r nought of probably…

Definitely sounds insane to me. Stop reading the news mate. >80% of cases are mild symptoms. A mild cold. Under 50 has a fatality rate of less than 0.5%. Almost all fatalities are over 70 or people who are already severely ill. You are about 25x more likely to die of the seasonal flu at this point. This is media hysteria in a post fact world where all information from all sources is equally valid. Everyone is trying…

Even if you are of an age where the risk of fatality or becoming very ill is minimal, consider this: if you have it for a few weeks even in a minor way, you are actively spreading it.

You don’t self isolate for yourself, you do it for all the people you can spread it to.

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