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Re: Seattle-Area Patient With Coronavirus Dies

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Amazon recently announced that all non essential work travel is cancelled. Friend who works there said they are taking it very seriously - any "essential" travel must be approved from the highest levels. They also announced that interviews will be conducted via VC going forward during the outbreak. I wonder if they 'shut down' campus and encourage everybody to work from home after this, self quarantine kind of thing.…

As we are several decades into an equally serious—or perhaps a far greater—catastrophe with globally rising temperatures—in part to blame by human activities that are now hindered because of this new immediate emergency.

I love that it took a global virus outbreak for these companies to take these actions that they should have taken long since in an effort against the climate disaster.

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Amazon recently announced that all non essential work travel is cancelled. Friend who works there said they are taking it very seriously - any "essential" travel must be approved from the highest levels. They also announced that interviews will be conducted via VC going forward during the outbreak. I wonder if they 'shut down' campus and encourage everybody to work from home after this, self quarantine kind of thing.…

As we are several decades into an equally serious—or perhaps a far greater—catastrophe with globally rising temperatures—in part to blame by human activities that are now hindered because of this new immediate emergency. I love that it took a global virus outbreak for these companies to take these actions that they should have taken long since in an effort against the climate disaster.

I don't know where to begin with this opinion and commentary so I'll just say how I feel.

Finding solace of potential human loss of life through a lens of reduced carbon footprint is tonedeaf to those who have lost loved ones to this disaster, and furthermore alienates an enriching dialogue between climate deniers by providing a scapegoat to keep heads in sand.

"Look at those climate cry babies, celebrating loss of life"

Re: Seattle-Area Patient With Coronavirus Dies

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Is it possible that the virus has been circulating in the states since Christmas or earlier?

I live in the states, though not in Seattle. My wife's best friend teaches ESL at a major university. She has several Chinese students in her class who went home over the semester break in December and January. In mid-to-late January, the teacher, her husband, my wife, and I all came down with the "flu" in swift succession, we all rode it out at home and none of us were tested to see if we actually had the flu virus. We just assumed flu because what else could it be? At that point, we'd never heard of novel corona virus.

The illness we all got was characterized by a deep and persistent cough and chest congestion, brutal sore throat, and a fever with teeth chattering chills and soaking sweats. We all had various levels of relapses of the cough and chest congestion (generally without fever) after the initial recovery.

I stayed home from work, of course, when I was ill, but a few people I had contact with at work also came down with something similar right after me. Many had had the flu shot since we get it for free at work. The general sentiment was that this years flu shot was a dud. I've been wondering if it wasn't actually flu going around.

Re: Seattle-Area Patient With Coronavirus Dies

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I wonder if this “temporary alteration” will impact the way business is conducted long-term. Instead of choosing between conference calls or flights, choose VC.

As someone who doesn't have to do business travel very often, I enjoy the trips to go meet with long-lost colleagues. But at the same time, it's pretty clear at least to me that most of these things are a waste of company money and don't really move the ball forward much compared to typical electronic collaboration. Selfishly, I'd be sad if business travel suffered a large permanent reduction. But it would be better…

I have to ask—since you admit to causing environmental harm with your admittedly unessisary travels—how do you morally accept the damage your selfish actions are causing? I’m genially asking, and not trying to be judgmental.

Re: Seattle-Area Patient With Coronavirus Dies

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if this “temporary alteration” will impact the way business is conducted long-term. Instead of choosing between conference calls or flights, choose VC.

As someone who doesn't have to do business travel very often, I enjoy the trips to go meet with long-lost colleagues. But at the same time, it's pretty clear at least to me that most of these things are a waste of company money and don't really move the ball forward much compared to typical electronic collaboration. Selfishly, I'd be sad if business travel suffered a large permanent reduction. But it would be better…

An interesting side effect if it does lead to long-term change is the airlines. Currently ticket prices are kept low by expensive business class tickets and late purchased business travelers. If either of those sees a >10% drop, some major disruptions are going to hit the aviation companies and ticket prices.

Re: Seattle-Area Patient With Coronavirus Dies

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Is it possible that the virus has been circulating in the states since Christmas or earlier? I live in the states, though not in Seattle. My wife's best friend teaches ESL at a major university. She has several Chinese students in her class who went home over the semester break in December and January. In mid-to-late January, the teacher, her husband, my wife, and I all came down with the "flu" in swift succession, w…

In January I also had similar symptoms (and I live in a community With probably 30% Chinese). They claimed it was probably influenza B, so perhaps you had that as well (or my docs were wrong)?

In either case, I have pneumonia to go with it and gotta day it was awful - 5 days of 105 fever, cough, I could hardly do anything.

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