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Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by arkitaip »

siftrics wrote: post #172

It’s interesting how hard it is to gauge the value of tools you don’t yet use. I’m the founder of a startup that recently subscribed to Gripeless ( https://usegripeless.com ). If you look at the Show HN thread and the other threads about Gripeless floating around the internet, you’ll see a lot of commenters saying “this is too expensive”, “I don’t see anyone buying this” or something along those lines. I was skeptica…

That's the main issue of purchasing products and services for you business, i.e it's almost impossible to gauge the real value of what you are buying until you try it out and can analyze the figures. This is why it's crazy that so many sass providers still require credit cards upfront or have an arbitrary 14 days trial period instead of having a free plan with unlimited trial period. It removes so many obstacles from the founder's decision-making process without costing the provider much money.

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by kristopolous »

mcintyre1994 wrote: post #82
matsemann wrote: post #24

Not exactly the same, but I have sometimes wondered how many startups are just burning other startups' money, and would collapse if VCs tightened the belt. For instance, startup X seems profitable but all revenue is from other startups not making money yet. Like a big ponzi scheme of sorts. Most products mentioned in the article are now mainstream, but for lots of them a few years back they were small and only used b…

I used to think this every time I downloaded a free mobile game. Probably 90%+ of ads in mobile games were for other free mobile games that presumably also have the same ad-supported model and the same sort of advertisers. It feels like there's a few games making heaps from IAPs and everyone else is just advertising in a pyramid toward them while also using IAPs in a way that makes their own game basically unplayable…

That's why you want to run pyramids, not play them.

In service fee markets, the brokers walk away with bags of cash.

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by war1025 »

krapp wrote: post #171
war1025 wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Said another way: Trump worked to earn votes, Clinton just felt like she deserved them.

>Said another way: Trump worked to earn votes, Clinton just felt like she deserved them. Both candidates felt they deserved votes and deserved to win (Donald Trump no less a narcissist or elitist than Hillary Clinton) and both worked to earn their votes. However, Donald Trump was willing to make promises to working class people he had no capacity or desire to deliver on, and Hillary Clinton more or less ignored them…

> if you actually believe Donald Trump is any less of a narcissist or elitist than Hillary Clinton, then you're deluded

Agree, but I would have put the names in the opposite spots.

> Donald Trump was willing to make promises to working class people he had no capacity or desire to deliver on

Kind of like Bernie with his plans for healthcare reform with Republicans in control of the Senate.

> In a different universe with slightly different conditions, Clinton might easily have won.

I voted for Trump and I expected Clinton to win. I suspect most people did. Election night was a welcome surprise. The ensuing three years of "the sky is falling" from the left has been tiring.

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by krapp »

war1025 wrote: post #183
krapp wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Said another way: Trump worked to earn votes, Clinton just felt like she deserved them. Both candidates felt they deserved votes and deserved to win (Donald Trump no less a narcissist or elitist than Hillary Clinton) and both worked to earn their votes. However, Donald Trump was willing to make promises to working class people he had no capacity or desire to deliver on, and Hillary Clinton more or less ignored them…

> if you actually believe Donald Trump is any less of a narcissist or elitist than Hillary Clinton, then you're deluded Agree, but I would have put the names in the opposite spots. > Donald Trump was willing to make promises to working class people he had no capacity or desire to deliver on Kind of like Bernie with his plans for healthcare reform with Republicans in control of the Senate. > In a different universe wi…

Yes, yes. Trump good, Clinton bad, leftists bad, Bernie bad, Democrats bad, pew pew pew.

Your partisan flag-waving is noted, but also tediously predictable.

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by gumby »

franciscop wrote: post #148
lonelappde wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't sound like a lot of money for a business.

It's nothing for a VC-funded or mid-to-large company; it's significant money for a self-funded small business just for enhanced tracking in most countries. Really depends on what kind of business we are talking about.

But the question then is whether you need to do that level of tracking at all. Sometimes of course the answer is yes (“we’re small now and hyperattention to the user demographics will tell us which feature from the list we should implement next”). But often it’s just “well let’s see who’s using our product” without a lot of analysis. Wasted money and unnecessary intrusion into the users’ affairs.

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by judge2020 »

bad_user wrote: post #151

IMO many people end up with a tool fetish, but some of these tools aren't worth it in a small startup: 1. You don't need Slack ($13 / month) as a two person startup — just do email and Skype 2. Notion ($16 / month) — this sounds like a glorified shared note taking app — just use Google Docs, or Dropbox Paper, or text files in a Dropbox folder 3. Sentry ($26 / month) — OK, this might be worth it, but if you have a hig…

4. Cloudflare - maybe better safe than sorry since you need Pro for the WAF.

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by gumby »

arkitaip wrote: post #181
siftrics wrote: post #172

It’s interesting how hard it is to gauge the value of tools you don’t yet use. I’m the founder of a startup that recently subscribed to Gripeless ( https://usegripeless.com ). If you look at the Show HN thread and the other threads about Gripeless floating around the internet, you’ll see a lot of commenters saying “this is too expensive”, “I don’t see anyone buying this” or something along those lines. I was skeptica…

That's the main issue of purchasing products and services for you business, i.e it's almost impossible to gauge the real value of what you are buying until you try it out and can analyze the figures. This is why it's crazy that so many sass providers still require credit cards upfront or have an arbitrary 14 days trial period instead of having a free plan with unlimited trial period. It removes so many obstacles from…

Sometimes it’s hard to come up with an adequately differentiated set of features for free vs paid, especially when you’re still in or close to the mvp phase.

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by war1025 »

krapp wrote: post #184
war1025 wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if you actually believe Donald Trump is any less of a narcissist or elitist than Hillary Clinton, then you're deluded Agree, but I would have put the names in the opposite spots. > Donald Trump was willing to make promises to working class people he had no capacity or desire to deliver on Kind of like Bernie with his plans for healthcare reform with Republicans in control of the Senate. > In a different universe wi…

Yes, yes. Trump good, Clinton bad, leftists bad, Bernie bad, Democrats bad, pew pew pew. Your partisan flag-waving is noted, but also tediously predictable.

> Your partisan flag-waving is noted, but also tediously predictable.

And so is your childish response. Great chat.

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by itronitron »

fivre wrote: post #74
Hnrobert42 wrote: post #33

I am the CIO of a mostly remote, cybersecurity startup (50 FTEs). I balance between not single-threading all choices through me and not letting things get too out of hand. That means no one is every really happy. E.g., we use Uberconference for videoconferencing. We thoroughly looked at a bunch of others and chose UC for its functionality, price, and simplicity (every conference gets a simple phone number, no stupid…

The individuals in aggregate may be toddlers, but unfortunately the C-suite as individuals are often also toddlers, at least vis a vis their responsibilities. Tasked with providing IT infrastructure that works for the company, they seem to largely shirk their responsibility and choose IT infrastructure that best serves them, the needs of others be damned. CIOs will seemingly gladly choose something that provides a go…

>> "the software literally shoots knives out of the monitor and gouges out your eyes"

That would be PeopleSoft.

A former employer decided to use it to integrate/replace multiple different working business systems they had been running for at least a decade without issue. Part of that solution involved having 'project specialists' specially trained on the system so that they could run reports for project managers, presumably while also fetching them coffee (/s).

I looked at the UI once out of curiosity but very quickly shut down my browser as my eyes started bleeding.

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