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I have the coronavirus. So far, it isn't that bad

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Re: I have the coronavirus. So far, it isn't that bad

#41
Humans are bad at gauging low probabilities. I for one cannot wrap my head around the actual badness of an event that has 2 percent chance of getting me killed. Taking the "average" approach, i.e. 2% loss of my expected remaining life time doesn't seem very good.

# Yup, I know getting the virus is more than just a chance to die - you possibly infect others, get quarantined, etc.

Re: I have the coronavirus. So far, it isn't that bad

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That's why it's so dangerous. For 80% of people it's a mild cold. - so they go to work like normal.

It kills the elderly, the immunosuppressed, those with heart disease, any pulmonary issues. You know people being treated for complicated diseases.

Re: I have the coronavirus. So far, it isn't that bad

#44

This is dangerous. Take every precaution you can not to get infected for as long as you can and that you don't infect anyone else. This is not the flu. The flu makes you more susceptible to a material pneumonia and that's how it kills. SARS-CoV-2 is NOT the flu. COVID-19 is the disease, by the way. Here is the list of complications: -ARDS in 29% (Acute respiratory distress disease, this needs mechanical ventilation t…

Is it more appropriate to say that Covid-19 is dangerous if you are elderly or have pre-existing conditions?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-se...

Re: I have the coronavirus. So far, it isn't that bad

#45
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I think this mans perspective is important. For the vast majority of people who get this it isn’t much different then having a cold or the flu. The large majority of people this is killing are elderly, whose immune systems are less likely to successfully defend. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-se... But that is not the picture painted by media day in and day out. There is so much hype and se…

The media mostly ignored this story for 1 entire month despite its constant seriousness and despite it being clear that it was the biggest event of the year so far. Only this last week has it picked up on it. For people who have been following it from the start that fact was used as evidence that it was an actually serious problem given that the media was constantly downplaying it or just ignoring it. In regards to t…

The media has been reporting on every detail of the coronavirus for over a month now. If you have only just started noticing, that is your fault. No one is ignoring anything.

Re: I have the coronavirus. So far, it isn't that bad

#46
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what nonsense?

Downplaying the seriousness of the pandemic. First there was nothing to worry about because it was localized to Wuhan, then there was nothing to worry about because it was only spreading in China and surely would not spread to $YOUR_COUNTRY, then there was nothing to worry about because it was only a few isolated cases that were easily dealt with, and now we seem to be moving into how there's nothing to worry about b…

I think it is already here and we just don't have a real view into it because of limited testing. The community transmissions that keep popping up are indications of that. I expect we will see an exponential increase in those in the next few weeks.

Re: I have the coronavirus. So far, it isn't that bad

#47
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I think after the success of the media in respect to this virus (massive amounts of clicks and TV view time), I firmly believe that every new flu will have it's own name and similar coverage from now on. They just made too much money off this, fear is a big seller.

This is about 20x deadlier (rate, not absolute numbers) than the seasonal flu as of midweek (numbers may have changed a bit in last few days). It is a more apt comparison to compare to the 1918/19 Spanish flu than the seasonal flu. edit: yes, I know the age breakdowns of deaths. But young people can still transmit the virus to their elderly loved ones etc. I don't understand why people are dismissive about the fact t…

That is a terrible talking point. It paints a picture that is not inline with reality. It’s the only ‘evidence’ anyone can grasp to as to why this is any more concerning than the common flu. Meanwhile the numbers are HIGHLY skewed by age group.

It is almost exclusively killing elderly people. For anyone less than 50-60 years old, the numbers are in line with flu. And the old people will be better protected once the vaccine comes out.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-se...

Re: I have the coronavirus. So far, it isn't that bad

#48
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this mans perspective is important. For the vast majority of people who get this it isn’t much different then having a cold or the flu. The large majority of people this is killing are elderly, whose immune systems are less likely to successfully defend. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-se... But that is not the picture painted by media day in and day out. There is so much hype and se…

The media mostly ignored this story for 1 entire month despite its constant seriousness and despite it being clear that it was the biggest event of the year so far. Only this last week has it picked up on it. For people who have been following it from the start that fact was used as evidence that it was an actually serious problem given that the media was constantly downplaying it or just ignoring it. In regards to t…

Just to point out that this was already being well reported at least a month ago [0], and that at that point people on HN were projecting millions of deaths by yesterday [1].

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22167157 [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22167881

Re: I have the coronavirus. So far, it isn't that bad

#49
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this mans perspective is important. For the vast majority of people who get this it isn’t much different then having a cold or the flu. The large majority of people this is killing are elderly, whose immune systems are less likely to successfully defend. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-se... But that is not the picture painted by media day in and day out. There is so much hype and se…

The media mostly ignored this story for 1 entire month despite its constant seriousness and despite it being clear that it was the biggest event of the year so far. Only this last week has it picked up on it. For people who have been following it from the start that fact was used as evidence that it was an actually serious problem given that the media was constantly downplaying it or just ignoring it. In regards to t…

So, my son had a really bad cold that resulted in an infected lymph node and a course of antibiotics. They never ran a test for covid-19.

So, how do we know that we have anywhere close to the right number of total patients?

Do you have any citations for these high numbers? Some statistical skepticism is important in matters of public concern.

Re: I have the coronavirus. So far, it isn't that bad

#50

This is dangerous. Take every precaution you can not to get infected for as long as you can and that you don't infect anyone else. This is not the flu. The flu makes you more susceptible to a material pneumonia and that's how it kills. SARS-CoV-2 is NOT the flu. COVID-19 is the disease, by the way. Here is the list of complications: -ARDS in 29% (Acute respiratory distress disease, this needs mechanical ventilation t…

Your numbers aren’t matching other published statistics. For one, 81% of cases are considered mild. I don’t know how that is supposed to square with your statistic that 30% of patients need mechanical ventilation to survive.

I agree that the disease is something to take seriously, but pushing incorrect information to fear monger is just wrong.

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