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I have the coronavirus. So far, it isn't that bad

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Re: I have the coronavirus. So far, it isn't that bad

#31
This is a pretty dismissive thread and P.O.V. The point is the combination of all characteristics of it is bad. No one has a resistance to it because it’s novel. It looks to have an infection rate of 2 for 1 infected. It will likely reach huge numbers of people and kill orders of magnitude more than the usual flu. If it gets to a billion people we’re talking tens of millions dead.

Re: I have the coronavirus. So far, it isn't that bad

#33

I suppose any disease isn't that bad when you have round the clock medical care pumping you full of medicine.

No, in fact lots of diseases are incredibly bad even with round the clock medical care pumping you full of medicine.

Sure but you can bet that CDC is caring for those few that are infected. Meaning among the best doctors in the world so it's very unlikely that he will die for inadequate care.

What will happen in a third world country? Or in the USA if million and millions are infected, overwhelming the health care system?

Re: I have the coronavirus. So far, it isn't that bad

#34
R0=2.2 and CFR=2.5% is all you need to know to realize this is not the “seasonal flu”. Look at the visualizations in this article[0] that compare the average number of people infected by each sick person and the fatality rate of various historical epidemics.

[0] https://nyti.ms/38Xc1ho

Re: I have the coronavirus. So far, it isn't that bad

#35

The Guardian today have another story titled “To hell and back”: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/29/to-hell-and-ba...

That's why it's important to have positive stories like this one, the media is only focusing on the negative ones even though they only count for < 1% of the real situations.

The death rate is 2-2.5% so how do you suggest that the negative cases are <1%?? At least every death is a 'negative story' and something tells me you don't want ARDS or secondary infection, so that's probably negative too.

Re: I have the coronavirus. So far, it isn't that bad

#36

The Guardian today have another story titled “To hell and back”: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/29/to-hell-and-ba...

That's why it's important to have positive stories like this one, the media is only focusing on the negative ones even though they only count for < 1% of the real situations.

Yeah, and a couple of days ago LinkedIn got spammed by "Supply Chains will die" posts. Well, at least my feed. So yeah, a hell of a load of clickbait all over the place. And only minority is trying to calm things down.

Re: I have the coronavirus. So far, it isn't that bad

#37
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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think after the success of the media in respect to this virus (massive amounts of clicks and TV view time), I firmly believe that every new flu will have it's own name and similar coverage from now on. They just made too much money off this, fear is a big seller.

Even if one was this cynical, do you not think a novel (not influenza) virus with an unusually high mortality rate spreading internationally is worthy of news coverage? The media didn't name this thing, nor SARS, nor avian bird flu.

SARS (the syndrome) is actually caused by the corona virus so it's not really new.

But I see my karma won't be healthy in this discussion so I guess I'll shut up :p

Re: I have the coronavirus. So far, it isn't that bad

#38
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And I had the flu.. it nearly killed me. Can we please stop this nonsense

I think after the success of the media in respect to this virus (massive amounts of clicks and TV view time), I firmly believe that every new flu will have it's own name and similar coverage from now on. They just made too much money off this, fear is a big seller.

This is about 20x deadlier (rate, not absolute numbers) than the seasonal flu as of midweek (numbers may have changed a bit in last few days). It is a more apt comparison to compare to the 1918/19 Spanish flu than the seasonal flu.

edit: yes, I know the age breakdowns of deaths. But young people can still transmit the virus to their elderly loved ones etc. I don't understand why people are dismissive about the fact that "oh its just the old people dying, nbd".

I guess in general, while I understand that the death rate may come down etc, I see a far bigger risk in making people think that it isn't a big deal. I'm not suggesting we should freak out, but I just don't understand downplaying it either.

Re: I have the coronavirus. So far, it isn't that bad

#39
Why do we still call it "The Coronavirus", despite the fact that the common cold is caused by coronaviruses and rhinoviruses [1]? Like, with the H1N1 flu we had a more specific name.

Isn't it morally important to provide the public with nuance? i.e., "there is a bad version of the common cold this year, so watch out, especially if you are over 60".

[1] Falsey, A. R., Walsh, E. E., & Hayden, F. G. (2002). Rhinovirus and coronavirus infection-associated hospitalizations among older adults. The Journal of infectious diseases, 185(9), 1338-1341.

Re: I have the coronavirus. So far, it isn't that bad

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post #12
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think after the success of the media in respect to this virus (massive amounts of clicks and TV view time), I firmly believe that every new flu will have it's own name and similar coverage from now on. They just made too much money off this, fear is a big seller.

Even if one was this cynical, do you not think a novel (not influenza) virus with an unusually high mortality rate spreading internationally is worthy of news coverage? The media didn't name this thing, nor SARS, nor avian bird flu.

It is worthy of coverage, but it’s only interesting because it’s new. It really not the super virus they make it out to be. The news coverage does not paint a realistic picture.

The height mortality rate is mostly due to the novelty and the fact we haven’t developed drugs for it yet. Also, it is killing almost exclusively elderly people. People who don’t have fully functioning immune systems. I’m willing to be the common flu killed a similar percentage of elderly before we developed a vaccine for it.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-se...

This is not the message the news tells us though. They would have us believe it is some unstoppable virus, killing anyone who comes in contact with it. But there really isn’t any evidence to back it up. Fear mongering certainly does drive traffic.

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