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Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by AdrianB1 »

Hnrobert42 wrote: post #33

I am the CIO of a mostly remote, cybersecurity startup (50 FTEs). I balance between not single-threading all choices through me and not letting things get too out of hand. That means no one is every really happy. E.g., we use Uberconference for videoconferencing. We thoroughly looked at a bunch of others and chose UC for its functionality, price, and simplicity (every conference gets a simple phone number, no stupid…

Sorry, but you are not a CIO, you just have a fancy meaningless title with no real correspondence to what it means. If the CFO decided to buy NetSuite without asking anyone, you care not CIO and he is acting as CEO because he can override you with no consequences. Just saying.

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by golergka »

elcapitan wrote: post #92
apk-d wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this only true for US-based companies? Where I'm from, I rarely see use of subscription services (especially ones that incur per-seat costs). Developers here tend to earn roughly the same number , but in a different currency , which makes all software and services several times more expensive. This results in preference of OSS alternatives and free tiers whenever possible. We use Discord for communication, Gitlab…

Is that a country with good internet connections for consumers and small companies? Here in Germany I wouldn't dare to run a lackrack server in the office, because the internet connection is crap almost everywhere.

Many otherwise crappy countries, especially in Eastern Europe, have excellent ISPs for some reason.

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by 76543210 »

mxschumacher wrote: post #61
fyfy18 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it adds up to that much, compared to the cost of developers. Where I live in Eastern Europe, a single mid-level developer would cost at least $5k/mo once you take into account taxes, office space and benefits. In SV I guess you are talking well over $20k/mo. $20k/mo is a lot of software.

non-technical staff need access to tools like Notion, Slack and Hubspot, the bills add up quickly

What does notion do?

I've seen businesses run on Microsoft tools and Engineering tools exclusively.

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by golergka »

I'm rewatching Mad Men now, and I'm amazed how many people in that era were busy on administrative tasks that are completely automated now – set on 2010s, this series would be about a boutique digital agency that would employ under 10 people, total. This list of software may be long, but without it, it wouldn't be possible to do this with just a 2-person team.

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by lonelappde »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #97
gibolt wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems like there should be some basic review processes in place. Any external dependency/purchase should require sign-off of at least one of only a few decision makers. This should be very similar to a code review, but seen by CTO, CIO, and CEO (whichever combination is most relevant) so that big unexpected, costly structural changes don't cost long term disfunction and pain.

Wonder if there's software for organisational management? Any ticket tracker could probably do.

Trackers are for management to control the plebs. Rules don't apply to execs.

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by lonelappde »

76543210 wrote: post #117
Shacklz wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Voluntary redistribution through loss making startups is the comfortable alternative to wealth taxes. That's just a little bit of redistribution from the top 1% to the top 10%, at best. Tech startups and their new fancy apps aren't putting food on the table or paying the health care bill for the bottom 90%.

I'm starting to think we need a 10%er collition. Our taxes went up under Trump. Healthcare got worse under Obama. The billionaire class uses the 90 percent to win elections. They have stopped pandering to us.

If you unite with the 90% instead of getting paid by the 0.1% to exploit them, maybe you can claw back some wealth from the 0.1%

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by lonelappde »

robjan wrote: post #39
matsemann wrote: post #24

Not exactly the same, but I have sometimes wondered how many startups are just burning other startups' money, and would collapse if VCs tightened the belt. For instance, startup X seems profitable but all revenue is from other startups not making money yet. Like a big ponzi scheme of sorts. Most products mentioned in the article are now mainstream, but for lots of them a few years back they were small and only used b…

A lot of these services get quite expensive very quickly once you go over the free threshold. The free plans are just a loss leader to encourage vendor lock-in. For example, I used to use the MixPanel free plan in a project and went over the limit and suddenly the plan cost around a thousand dollars per year.

Doesn't sound like a lot of money for a business.

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by moksly »

girishso wrote: post #87
moksly wrote: post #41

I’d personally drop gsuite, trello and slack and get a office365 essentials plan. I know, because I did, and it’s so much easier to manage and it’s also cheaper. I’m not going to say the tools are better with Microsoft, because to me it’s really much of the same where I genuinely don’t really like any of the options. But because it’s not worse either, you kind of get used to it. I think if you got the full teams/one-…

MS Teams is very buggy/has less features, we're researching other tools atm.

I think the less features is an advantage. But they certainly don’t work as well if you’re web-only and getting access to the actual desktop applications is a more expensive license.

I don’t particularly like teams, I do like planner and onenote colaboration, but I also really, really dislike slack, so that has to weigh into what you take from my opinion on the subject.

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by xwdv »

Hnrobert42 wrote: post #33

I am the CIO of a mostly remote, cybersecurity startup (50 FTEs). I balance between not single-threading all choices through me and not letting things get too out of hand. That means no one is every really happy. E.g., we use Uberconference for videoconferencing. We thoroughly looked at a bunch of others and chose UC for its functionality, price, and simplicity (every conference gets a simple phone number, no stupid…

Do you mind sharing the name of your startup?
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