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Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by dependsontheq »

girishso wrote: post #87
moksly wrote: post #41

I’d personally drop gsuite, trello and slack and get a office365 essentials plan. I know, because I did, and it’s so much easier to manage and it’s also cheaper. I’m not going to say the tools are better with Microsoft, because to me it’s really much of the same where I genuinely don’t really like any of the options. But because it’s not worse either, you kind of get used to it. I think if you got the full teams/one-…

MS Teams is very buggy/has less features, we're researching other tools atm.

Yes we tried to switch to Teams from Slack ... but everyone hated it with passion. Hate is not good for productivity...

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by cl0rkster »

Hnrobert42 wrote: post #33

I am the CIO of a mostly remote, cybersecurity startup (50 FTEs). I balance between not single-threading all choices through me and not letting things get too out of hand. That means no one is every really happy. E.g., we use Uberconference for videoconferencing. We thoroughly looked at a bunch of others and chose UC for its functionality, price, and simplicity (every conference gets a simple phone number, no stupid…

This post starts by telling it's lauded idea of not single threading large purchasing decisions. It's simply irresponsible not to. Even the poster knows that, and that's why he thanks God that another C-level actually showed leadership. Honestly, reading the post, everything points to this guy being buddy boss. Bosses should create a positive work environment both at and away from the job. They should not be friends outside of work with their subordinates (yes, I know this is speculation about this guy, but the principal is true). I wish all these c-level folks with their making sure any shit they create always rolls right past them and onto someone else would just give their money to the person actually shoveling the shit... Because they recognize value.

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by hliyan »

moksly wrote: post #41

I’d personally drop gsuite, trello and slack and get a office365 essentials plan. I know, because I did, and it’s so much easier to manage and it’s also cheaper. I’m not going to say the tools are better with Microsoft, because to me it’s really much of the same where I genuinely don’t really like any of the options. But because it’s not worse either, you kind of get used to it. I think if you got the full teams/one-…

A counterpoint (also based on personal experience): recently moved from a company that uses Office365 to a one that uses GSuite. Communications and document sharing feels far more simpler and productive. I can't quite put my finger on why, but working on GSuite just feels faster and less clunkier.

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by heartbeats »

Shacklz wrote: post #93
pjc50 wrote: post #73

SoftBank invested something like $24bn in WeWork, which went to the real estate bubble plus free beer for techies. There is an astonishing amount of money out there. In the case of the Saudi investment through SoftBank, it's practically a moral imperative to relieve them of it. Enjoy it while it lasts. Voluntary redistribution through loss making startups is the comfortable alternative to wealth taxes.

> Voluntary redistribution through loss making startups is the comfortable alternative to wealth taxes. That's just a little bit of redistribution from the top 1% to the top 10%, at best. Tech startups and their new fancy apps aren't putting food on the table or paying the health care bill for the bottom 90%.

Anything is better than nothing, isn't it?

Savings rate goes up with income. On a percentage basis, the 10% are going to be spending more money at restaurants, shops, etc. This is, arguably, preferable to the 1% investing it in the stock market.

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by lifeisstillgood »

GordonS wrote: post #91
lifeisstillgood wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hear you, but the only times I have seen the balance work is via a "committee" of DevLeads. Senior devs work with the trees everyday but are also able to see the woods. They are at the perfect position to make intelligent future proof decisions, and the second job of senior management is to ensure the DevLeads (or non tech equivalents) across the company are meeting talking discussing and deciding regularly and fre…

Where this totally falls down is where that committee becomes a full-time position, and the members stop doing actual dev work, becoming more and more out of touch with reality as time passes. This was the case at an engineering company I worked with for several years. The committee, or "enterprise architects" as they called themselves, became too far removed from the trenches, and the devs viewed them as sitting in…

It's this "committee" job to make sure the organisation has the right tools without descending into anarchy

it's senior managements job to make sure the dev leads are working well

Basically this is senior / middle management in every company

you had senior management that have not realised the importance of software to their business - so they let a situation develop they would never allow in sales or accounts

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by GordonS »

lifeisstillgood wrote: post #107
GordonS wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where this totally falls down is where that committee becomes a full-time position, and the members stop doing actual dev work, becoming more and more out of touch with reality as time passes. This was the case at an engineering company I worked with for several years. The committee, or "enterprise architects" as they called themselves, became too far removed from the trenches, and the devs viewed them as sitting in…

It's this "committee" job to make sure the organisation has the right tools without descending into anarchy it's senior managements job to make sure the dev leads are working well Basically this is senior / middle management in every company you had senior management that have not realised the importance of software to their business - so they let a situation develop they would never allow in sales or accounts

I think this is pretty accurate, and you're absolutely correct that this wouldn't have happened in any other area of the business.

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by diggan »

hackmiester wrote: post #16
diggan wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, kind of (at least last time I used it, which was Sublime Text 2). They say it's an evaluation but there is no time-limit, just an annoying popup every now and then (or on start? Can't remember) but it's effectively free if you're OK with that.

I mean, basically all desktop software is free if you’re okay with violating the license. Not something I’d advise if you’re trying to run a business.

Not at all because usually you have to circumvent some protection they have, and in that case the intent is to continue using the software in a way they didn't intend and probably breaking some agreement you made when installing/downloading.

In the Sublime Text case, they explicitly give you unlimited time to trial the software and buy it if you get value from it (which, if you do, please buy it [and same with other software] so we can make the world go around). Their license seems to explicitly say that you can evaluate it until you either stop using it or buy it, without breaking any agreement.

Edit: I should clarify more about my own position about it before it gets taken with the wrong idea in mind. I do agree that if you do continuously use Sublime Text (or other software with similar license/trials) and get value from it, you should absolutely buy it to support the developers. Continuing to use beyond that would not be the ethical thing to do. But it does seem like the developers of Sublime Text are confident enough that people who can afford it and gets value from it, will eventually purchase a license. Which, since the company still exists, seems to work out, and that's great to see.

Re: A two-person startup already uses twenty-eight other tools

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Post by LoSboccacc »

Hnrobert42 wrote: post #33

I am the CIO of a mostly remote, cybersecurity startup (50 FTEs). I balance between not single-threading all choices through me and not letting things get too out of hand. That means no one is every really happy. E.g., we use Uberconference for videoconferencing. We thoroughly looked at a bunch of others and chose UC for its functionality, price, and simplicity (every conference gets a simple phone number, no stupid…

> won’t let you use Postgres instead of MariaDB or Gitlab instead of Bitbucket, remember my experience. It’s because no matter how smart you folks are as individuals, in the aggregate you are like toddlers

I actively resist the notion that 'everyone but me is stupid' and propose a more realipolitik explanation: it's because power and budget. in manager heads, if you pick solution A I pick solution B, so that higher ups don't see the same line twice in services costs and get the idea they can obtain savings by merging the two functions, making one of us redundant.

yep yep didn't expect anything different from a techie community.

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