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How the 1918 Flu Spread Across America (2017)
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#12> In 1918, medicine had barely become modern; some scientists still believed “miasma” accounted for influenza’s spread. Does anyone know where I can learn more about the "miasma" model of disease? Whenever I'm looking up old plagues / diseases / etc. etc., they bring up the "miasma" model. But what is the miasma theory (or pseudo-science?) that people used to believe in? And how does it differ from our modern germ th…
I dislike this idea of calling theories that ended up being wrong as "pseudo-science". Not all wrong ideas were just random ramblings. Miasma Theory came from imperfect knowledge and not understanding the mechanisms of some of their observations.
If you read the debates on how miasma works, you can totally see reasonable rational arguments if you strip away a few generations of scientific knowledge.
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#13For those of you reading this from the bay area, we already have suspected community transmission 50 miles away, in a town with a lot of people who commute to the Bay. If it's easy for you to work from home, consider doing so, giving explicit permission to your reports to do so, and asking your manager to give permission to their reports to do so.
We're fortunate to be in an industry where WFH has relatively little cost, and we can afford to get ahead of this in a way that other industries can't. We don't have to wait for the government to give us guidance. For people doing technical tasks, IMHO, the cost/benefit tipped in favor of WFH yesterday.
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#14I read this article a few weeks ago when I fell down the rabbit hole of trying to figure out why the Spanish Flu was called the "Spanish Flu". I knew it didn't originate from Spain, but hadn't heard that the traditional consensus is that it likely started in Kansas, owing to the first detected case being in Kansas. The CDC has a variety of history pages [0] about the Spanish Flu. The main one acknowledges that there…
I heard it was called it because the Spanish were the only ones reporting it during the war.
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#15“ Philadelphia had scheduled a big Liberty Loan parade for September 28. Doctors urged Krusen to cancel it, fearful that hundreds of thousands jamming the route, crushing against each other for a better view, would spread disease. They convinced reporters to write stories about the danger. But editors refused to run them, and refused to print letters from doctors. The largest parade in Philadelphia’s history proceede…
For the USA at least, wouldn't imposing a ban rather than a recommendation be a violation of the Constitutional right to freedom of assembly?
Re: How the 1918 Flu Spread Across America (2017)
#16I read this article a few weeks ago when I fell down the rabbit hole of trying to figure out why the Spanish Flu was called the "Spanish Flu". I knew it didn't originate from Spain, but hadn't heard that the traditional consensus is that it likely started in Kansas, owing to the first detected case being in Kansas. The CDC has a variety of history pages [0] about the Spanish Flu. The main one acknowledges that there…
I heard it was called it because the Spanish were the only ones reporting it during the war.
Yes, that was the explanation I got in history class as well. The flu emerged during World War I, and every combatant country had strict censorship of the press in place, which suppressed news of its spread in those countries. But Spain was neutral in that conflict and thus had an uncensored press, so reports of the flu's impact quickly made it to print there. And those reports got picked up worldwide as the first reporting on the influenza, leading people to think of it as a disease that began in Spain.
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#17I read this article a few weeks ago when I fell down the rabbit hole of trying to figure out why the Spanish Flu was called the "Spanish Flu". I knew it didn't originate from Spain, but hadn't heard that the traditional consensus is that it likely started in Kansas, owing to the first detected case being in Kansas. The CDC has a variety of history pages [0] about the Spanish Flu. The main one acknowledges that there…
I don't think the Kansas source has any traditional consensus at all. It's just on the list of "possibilities" None of the sources indicate otherwise.
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#18For those of you reading this from the bay area, we already have suspected community transmission 50 miles away, in a town with a lot of people who commute to the Bay. If it's easy for you to work from home, consider doing so, giving explicit permission to your reports to do so, and asking your manager to give permission to their reports to do so. We're fortunate to be in an industry where WFH has relatively little c…
For those who haven't kept up:
https://www.ucdavis.edu/news/message-campus-community-covid-...
In addition to the confirmed Solano county case (unknown transmission), three UC Davis students are currently in isolation, with one showing symptoms (tested, pending results).
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#19“ Philadelphia had scheduled a big Liberty Loan parade for September 28. Doctors urged Krusen to cancel it, fearful that hundreds of thousands jamming the route, crushing against each other for a better view, would spread disease. They convinced reporters to write stories about the danger. But editors refused to run them, and refused to print letters from doctors. The largest parade in Philadelphia’s history proceede…
For the USA at least, wouldn't imposing a ban rather than a recommendation be a violation of the Constitutional right to freedom of assembly?
Not a lawyer, I think it would depend on the exact laws and rulings around martial law. Curfews are a thing, but I don’t know if they’re constitutional.
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#20“ Philadelphia had scheduled a big Liberty Loan parade for September 28. Doctors urged Krusen to cancel it, fearful that hundreds of thousands jamming the route, crushing against each other for a better view, would spread disease. They convinced reporters to write stories about the danger. But editors refused to run them, and refused to print letters from doctors. The largest parade in Philadelphia’s history proceede…
For the USA at least, wouldn't imposing a ban rather than a recommendation be a violation of the Constitutional right to freedom of assembly?
Sure, a recommendation seems good too... anything rather than just burying our heads in the sand.