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that might work in the US, but in Europe churches are poor and mostly attended by old ladies with networks of other old ladies.
so what? Old ladies can be warm and very helpful too
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#92Find a church - neither too big nor too small. Introduce yourself as someone willing to do assist with the IT/ secretarial / etc. in exchange for warm food and a shelter bed. Churches have very large networks. When you get on your feet, and you will, remember who helped you survive.
Churches aren't like that in Europe. They are not communities nor are they huge. A church is an office where a priest and maybe some assisting staff work, and the priest performs weekly some ceremonies. But there is really no community as such.
I live in an area that's heavily dominated by protestants, so my experience is mostly with them, I don't know how that's for catholic areas. The Netherlands are famously protestant as well, might be similar.
Re: Ask HN: How to find work while homeless?
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> nobody I'm applying to knows I don't have a permanent legal residence. Er how do you get past "meldung" then. When I last had the pleasure of experiencing the dutch job market, the Vreemdelingenpolitie (lit. foreigner police) and the myriad other amptenare (term of affection for govt officals) made it impossible to not have a verified, permanent address.
So under EU law, Governments can't prevent you from seeking work even if you don't have a permanent home. This was found through the court system when the UK tried to remove people sleeping rough who were trying to find work, under their "hostile environment" policy.
Re: Ask HN: How to find work while homeless?
#94If you have an internet connection: Either post on Craigslist or walk in to small business with the following offers: - I will build you a website for (small sum) - I will build your facebook page for (small sum) - I will setup your Twitter account for (small sum) On and on and on until you can generate a few hundred dollars. The world is a VASTLY different place when you have zero money versus when you have a little…
Re: Ask HN: How to find work while homeless?
#95Find a church - neither too big nor too small. Introduce yourself as someone willing to do assist with the IT/ secretarial / etc. in exchange for warm food and a shelter bed. Churches have very large networks. When you get on your feet, and you will, remember who helped you survive.
that might work in the US, but in Europe churches are poor and mostly attended by old ladies with networks of other old ladies.
Certain flavors of US churches look like this, too.
Re: Ask HN: How to find work while homeless?
#96That’s a bit surprising given that the Netherlands has a generous social system. I’ll try as a first step to ask and look for government organizations that could potentially help and give you free stuff. Next, I’ll drop tech for a while. I’ll look for any job that has low or no barrier to entries. Washing cars, cleaning carpets, collecting garbage, etc... These are jobs with little barriers to entry and that will hav…
I spent a year homeless on the streets of San Francisco due to my mental health and the atrocious safety net we have in the US. Eventually, my mental health improved, and I met an extremely generous person who was also in tech and helped me tremendously by giving me an old laptop of his and introducing me to the owner of an agency he used to work at. They didn’t have any work for me right away, but eventually I got a 6 week contract that paid $12k. Since I was a contractor, all of this money was available to me immediately (I could worry about taxes later), and I was able to get back on my feet and find a job soon after.
Obviously my situation involved a bit of luck, but I do believe that as long as you have access to a computer, this is possible. The important things to remember are that your skills are valuable. Do not sell yourself short because of your current situation. And things will get better. I know you’re living through a hell very few people can understand, but if you’re fortunate enough to be intelligent and skilled, you have a very good chance of coming out of this. Most homeless people don’t have this benefit.
Re: Ask HN: How to find work while homeless?
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
Churches aren't like that in Europe. They are not communities nor are they huge. A church is an office where a priest and maybe some assisting staff work, and the priest performs weekly some ceremonies. But there is really no community as such.
This might depend heavily on the country and location, but that's not my experience. I'm not religious, but I know some people who are, and their churches are quite active in their local communities, doing charity work, helping the homeless and the poor in general. I live in an area that's heavily dominated by protestants, so my experience is mostly with them, I don't know how that's for catholic areas. The Netherlan…
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> Then any reason why you are there? Are you allowed to legally work in the Netherlands. I am. > I'm pretty sure there is. There's a very complicated system, but tl;dr being unable to find work would cause me to lose benefits and be left without a home. I don't trust that I would be able to find a job, so I would prefer to keep a roof over my head for now. To add to the mess, I'm trans, which means companies (even bi…
> There's a very complicated system Navigate that system. People with much lower IQ are relying on it, you should be able to do that too. > I'm trans, which means companies (even big ones) will not put me in a position where customers might possibly see me, Same if you were homeless. I wouldn't hire a homeless barista that will turn off customers. > I've had interviewers in the UK visibly disappointed when they saw m…
I feel you're really underestimating the extent to which being visibly trans is a barrier in finding dignified employment. Perhaps the most maddening thing is that people don't hire you not because they, themselves, have anything against visibly trans people, rather it's because they are afraid of what others might think. And yet, even as everyone knows very well what "people might say", it is at the same time extremely difficult to covince cis people (i.e. not trans) that being visibly trans is an important factor in being out of work. It's a cruel catch-22 situation. The same people who would never hire you because you look visibly trans would never accept that you have trouble finding work because you look visibly trans.
I'm guessing that the OP ommitted any information about being trans from their original post above either because they expected that people would either think the OP was playing the victim card or they would just think there's some other reason, that has nothing to do with being trans, that the OP can't find decent work.
But I'm inclined to believe that this is, in fact, the primary reason. That's from my own experience and that of my many trans friends.
To the OP- just hang in there, please. Things will get better. And don't go back to the UK. It's now a fascist, racist little shithole with a majority that delights in crushing vulnerable people.
Re: Ask HN: How to find work while homeless?
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
that might work in the US, but in Europe churches are poor and mostly attended by old ladies with networks of other old ladies.
Be careful in the US too, churches aren't so nice here.
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The Netherlands has a generous social system that I can't access because I'm not actually from here. It happens to be the last place I was in when I was told I didn't have a home or money any more. Going "home" is kinda pointless - there's not actually any support in the UK for people like me, so I'd be sleeping rough there quickly anyway.
> The Netherlands has a generous social system that I can't access because I'm not actually from here. Then any reason why you are there? Are you allowed to legally work in the Netherlands. > there's not actually any support in the UK for people like me I'm pretty sure there is. 2/3 of British families receive some kind of benefits in Britain. You might have to ask for it. I also suspect there is more to this story (…
The key part of that is "families", single people don't get nearly as much support.