Ask HN: What can I do with extra electricity?
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Re: Ask HN: What can I do with extra electricity?
#32You can sell it to your local utility company. You will get paid for it, and another power plant somewhere (maybe a coal power plant) will need to produce 1 kW less power.
Re: Ask HN: What can I do with extra electricity?
#33I'd buy Tesla Powerwalls¹ and charge 'em up. One of them can store upto 13.5 kWh of energy and going by your comment below (190 kWh/30 days = 6.3 kWh/day, which seems in line with "I have an extra KW of power generation for ~8 hours" for peak days), it seems two of them costing $14k as per their calculator can handle 4 days worth of surplus. Not sure if the economics would work out in your favor² but I personally con…
I don't need any large AC inverters, so a big part of the appeal of a power wall is lost on my. Also I'd rather something with user-serviceable parts, as for me at least that goes hand-in-hand with going off grid.
Re: Ask HN: What can I do with extra electricity?
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
That makes no sense. If the energy is here, what's the benefit of not using it?
Instead of consuming the extra energy, OP could also provide it to another customer through the grid, by selling it back to the utility company. This would reduce the total amount of energy that needs to be generated from non-renewable sources. If OP increases their own consumption instead, those non-renewable kWh are still being generated and causing environmental impact somewhere.
Also most of it isn't going through an inverter, I'm using direct DC-DC, which is much more power efficient for what I'm doing. So that means more cost for inverters, which I'd consider paying even if at the scale I'm working at it would take years for the equipment to pay for itself, but...
You can't simply tie an inverter into the grid and sell back to the power company, as that could mean that during repairs lines they thought had no power were energized by some residential customer. You need special hardware that the power company can shut down remotely, and that's only available for larger customers.
Also I'm not sure if the price I'd be getting for that power would actually offset the monthly connection fee, making connecting to the grid and selling back extra power very likely cost more than just wasting the power, which is unfortunate.
So unfortunately grid-buyback that isn't really an option for me.
Which is why I'm looking at other options. I like the wood pellet one, in an ideal world I'd be able to do some kind of carbon capture or something, but I'm not seeing any good power-to-gas tech right now.
Re: Ask HN: What can I do with extra electricity?
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Assuming the panels are connected to the grid, then the power will be consumed by neighbors - not wasted. EDIT: I see it was right there in the first line of the post that the plan is to unplug from the grid. I would reconsider this decision. If you stay connected, you can share your excess capacity - if not then you use it or lose it. Why put yourself in that position?
I personally support municipalities making it illegal to go completely off the grid.
Re: Ask HN: What can I do with extra electricity?
#36I've bought two different solar systems in two different states and the devil is in the details for your hypothetical situation. You need to understand average overcast days, ~90 percentile run of overcast days in your lowest intensity sun month, intensity of sun, angle of the sun, et c. Also, if you optimize for the worst days of the year, you could be reducing total energy output because your panels would be optimized for a lower sun angle.
Re: Ask HN: What can I do with extra electricity?
#37I'd buy Tesla Powerwalls¹ and charge 'em up. One of them can store upto 13.5 kWh of energy and going by your comment below (190 kWh/30 days = 6.3 kWh/day, which seems in line with "I have an extra KW of power generation for ~8 hours" for peak days), it seems two of them costing $14k as per their calculator can handle 4 days worth of surplus. Not sure if the economics would work out in your favor² but I personally con…
background: this is second hand knowledge based on watching hundreds of videos people have made, documenting their experience and all the steps to go off grid, so this could be outdated. Learning every facet of this is one of my hobbies.
Re: Ask HN: What can I do with extra electricity?
#38You can sell it to your local utility company. You will get paid for it, and another power plant somewhere (maybe a coal power plant) will need to produce 1 kW less power.
Also I'm not sure that the amount of power I'd be putting back would actually pay for the basic connection fee. It would during the summer months, but during the winter it likely wouldn't, and seasonal connections aren't much cheaper.
I think that's generally the best bet if you can do it.
Re: Ask HN: What can I do with extra electricity?
#39Gravity batteries. Get a million gallon Tank on 10-20m stilts, pump water into it with ONLY waste electricity. Let water flow out of it and power a turbine during times where electricity is needed.
But then OP still has too much electricity — s/he just has too much electricity at different times!
Re: Ask HN: What can I do with extra electricity?
#40I'm in Washington state and I'm not sure what latitude you live at, but for my house, my low, without snow on the panels, is about 8 kWh for an overcast day in December or January and my high is 107 kWh for a day in the middle of summer. For me to average out my needs I need a dam... like on the Columbia. In WA state, you don't sell the power, your extra power is future credit to your power needs. I'm on a heat pump…
Those numbers are a fair bit worse than the worst cases I was looking at, which assumed winter panels would be ~25% efficient on average....
So that assumes a 3kw system is producing around 4kw-hours per day. I'll need to see if that's realistic.