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Users protest over 'creepy' Facebook update (2006)

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Re: Users protest over 'creepy' Facebook update (2006)

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Does anyone remember that FB feature when you were able to cross search people? "Men between 20 and 30 who likes football and lives in NYC" It was available for a few months, I don't remember exactly. That was around 2011-12. That was the craziest thing I've ever seen

It was available from March 2013 to June 2019: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook_Graph_Search

Re: Users protest over 'creepy' Facebook update (2006)

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This was probably the beginning of the end of Facebook, at least for me. I started interacting with Facebook much less and started to forget about it, because I didn't want everybody to see how addicted I was to Facebook. The same happened with Instagram when everybody was able to see what I was liking. This is turned off now, but the damage was already done, I became too paranoid to get addicted to social media again. I'm clean now for almost 2 years, thank you.

Re: Users protest over 'creepy' Facebook update (2006)

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One part of this still infuriates me and restricts my behavior on the platform (which I barely interact with anymore): showing my friends what I click like on if it's a public post. I've had politically-impassioned relatives attack me for liking candidates they don't like or if I comment on a public post and Facebook points my comment out to them. It also works the other way too. I really didn't need to know that my…

I block anyone on FB that cause any real life drama because of what they see.

I’ve even blocked my own mom for lecturing me about the silly memes that I post.

Re: Users protest over 'creepy' Facebook update (2006)

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One part of this still infuriates me and restricts my behavior on the platform (which I barely interact with anymore): showing my friends what I click like on if it's a public post. I've had politically-impassioned relatives attack me for liking candidates they don't like or if I comment on a public post and Facebook points my comment out to them. It also works the other way too. I really didn't need to know that my…

Thats exactly the problem with Facebook - no firewalls between the various personas of an individual.

I'd say that's not really the problem with Facebook (well it is but bear with me): long ago, at the end of the 90's, it was highly recommended to use pseudonyms on the Internet because `you never know who's who` and well.. it was right and we didn't know what the Internet could really do.

When Facebook/Gmail happened and people were nudged to use their real names... because we need `real` connections. Well, that didn't tipped enough of us. Facebook was the tinder of the day, right ?

But then the whole privacy thing came back to bite us hard (and will bite harder in the coming years).

So we are back to using pseudonyms (which according to my friend's 11yo daughter's guide to the Internet everyone should use anyway) as the default. Except for professional things. We need a professional Internet presence, hello LinkedIn and $name $familyname + 'pro' Facebook account.

Now there was an argument that with everything in the open then people would get more tolerant about other's mischievings and out-of-the-accepted-norm behavior. Big nope as a whole it turned out.

Anyway, youth of today have figured it out years ago and just have multiple personas with different accounts.

With different accounts, not with different circles or different sharing settings. And of course with silly names.

Like you said Facebook isn't designed around the various personas of an individual but increasingly during the last decade the whole Internet community makers (software builders and evangelists and users) were misled on the `true identity` thing and we are only slowly assessing the damage and recovering.

What I mean to say is: everyone was on board with not having various personas. Latest large scale attempt to overcome this failed hard (Google's circles) because people don't want to micro-manage their online Rolodex and it turns out you can't trust Google to respect that firewall anyway (see the cases about people being outed as transgenders).

Only pseudonyms and different accounts can alleviate that and it's going to happen more because most of people will get back to that mindset.

Re: Users protest over 'creepy' Facebook update (2006)

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post #10

Does anyone remember that FB feature when you were able to cross search people? "Men between 20 and 30 who likes football and lives in NYC" It was available for a few months, I don't remember exactly. That was around 2011-12. That was the craziest thing I've ever seen

To see how creepy and invasive this was, see the 'Actual Facebook Graph Searches' that Tom Scott compiled: https://actualfacebookgraphsearches.tumblr.com/

Re: Users protest over 'creepy' Facebook update (2006)

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My word, I remember years back when I didn't realise that this was a thing, and it took my mate showing me his feed filled with me liking a whole load of random sexy filth pages. I remember commenting wondering if my mum could see all the shit I'd liked, to which she responded "yep.". Absolutely mortified mate.

That is exactly why I ended up leaving Twitter. As soon as Twitter started showing me everything my friend marked with a “like” (Favourite? Star?), I started seeing explicit examples of my friends’ kinks.

Rule 1 of social networks: use a different account for NSFW content.

Re: Users protest over 'creepy' Facebook update (2006)

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post #10

Does anyone remember that FB feature when you were able to cross search people? "Men between 20 and 30 who likes football and lives in NYC" It was available for a few months, I don't remember exactly. That was around 2011-12. That was the craziest thing I've ever seen

I don't recall that I did this, but I remember a very smart ER doctor I used to work with running some basic statistics against Facebook in 2006-2008 which identified singles by gender and age categories.

The year may be wrong, but based on what I was studying at the time, and my relationship status, that's probably the timeframe.

Re: Users protest over 'creepy' Facebook update (2006)

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One part of this still infuriates me and restricts my behavior on the platform (which I barely interact with anymore): showing my friends what I click like on if it's a public post. I've had politically-impassioned relatives attack me for liking candidates they don't like or if I comment on a public post and Facebook points my comment out to them. It also works the other way too. I really didn't need to know that my…

Thats exactly the problem with Facebook - no firewalls between the various personas of an individual.

Completely agree. My persona at work and at university are two separate things. My persona when I come home and interact with my kids is different to my persona when I'm arguing with a colleague about database schematics. My political views are relevant with my friends but could cause problems with my employer. In reality we have many hats but Facebook restricts us to one and lets all our friends and family know our every interaction, too, promoting a false sense of ourselves. Zuckerberg said, in the OP's article, that (to paraphrase), it's only friends and family that know what you like/what you've been doing. Do you ring your nan every time you take a dump? Or text your brother when you're feeling horny? No. Facebook is blind to the individual facets of our characters.
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