No ‘carmageddon’ on auto-free Market Street: study shows bikes and buses benefit
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Re: No ‘carmageddon’ on auto-free Market Street: study shows bikes and buses benefit
#2Just the fact that riding a bicycle got more attractive and 25% more people are using their bicycles now means that there will be less people left stuck in traffic in their cars.
Not to mention the people who are exercising by using their bicycles will have health benefits as well.
Re: No ‘carmageddon’ on auto-free Market Street: study shows bikes and buses benefit
#3The linked article (1) says the redesign will have "sidewalk level bike lanes".
If there's a way for local people to comment on this, please encourage these to be changed to in-between-road-and-sidewalk level. (Or road level with a continuous kerb in between).
This makes it much, much easier for pedestrians not to accidentally wander into the lane. (2)
1 https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Car-free-Market-...
2 https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/copenhagen-denmark-...
Re: No ‘carmageddon’ on auto-free Market Street: study shows bikes and buses benefit
#4I thought it would be mayhem but traffic overall didn't change at all. It's exactly the same.
Re: No ‘carmageddon’ on auto-free Market Street: study shows bikes and buses benefit
#5The linked article (1) says the redesign will have "sidewalk level bike lanes". If there's a way for local people to comment on this, please encourage these to be changed to in-between-road-and-sidewalk level. (Or road level with a continuous kerb in between). This makes it much, much easier for pedestrians not to accidentally wander into the lane. (2) 1 https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Car-free-Market-...…
As a Dutchie blunders like the one you mention are so stupifying... Takes you a ten minute visit to NL to figure out why you need to separate modalities consistently, yet even as close as Germany and France cities are designed so obviously by people who never ever bike.
Re: No ‘carmageddon’ on auto-free Market Street: study shows bikes and buses benefit
#6I thought it would be mayhem but traffic overall didn't change at all. It's exactly the same.
I had a car for several years in the city and never drove down market a single time. Always faster to take the one-ways mission or howard.
Re: No ‘carmageddon’ on auto-free Market Street: study shows bikes and buses benefit
#7I thought it would be mayhem but traffic overall didn't change at all. It's exactly the same.
That's because most cars were taken off Market St in 2015: https://www.sfmta.com/project-updates/turn-restrictions-mark...
Since then most cars on Market St north of Van Ness seem to have been Uber and Lyft. Now they're finally banned. If buses are actually running faster--not just a consequence of less traffic during the winter months--it goes to show how much Uber and Lyft have contributed to traffic in the city. They drive slow, erratically, and stop in the middle of the road on main arteries to pick people up and drop them off.
Re: No ‘carmageddon’ on auto-free Market Street: study shows bikes and buses benefit
#8I take the 5R nearly every week day. Anecdotally, it seems like it’s been better lately (though it’s always been adequate), but I didn’t connect that with the market street car ban until now.
Re: No ‘carmageddon’ on auto-free Market Street: study shows bikes and buses benefit
#9The linked article (1) says the redesign will have "sidewalk level bike lanes". If there's a way for local people to comment on this, please encourage these to be changed to in-between-road-and-sidewalk level. (Or road level with a continuous kerb in between). This makes it much, much easier for pedestrians not to accidentally wander into the lane. (2) 1 https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Car-free-Market-...…
As a Dutchie blunders like the one you mention are so stupifying... Takes you a ten minute visit to NL to figure out why you need to separate modalities consistently, yet even as close as Germany and France cities are designed so obviously by people who never ever bike.
Same in Austria, we simply grew accustomed to bikes sharing the road with cars, busses and trams which I'm sure would be terrifying to someone from NL.
The problem is, after the post war boom, the cities were planned for cars and now there's simply no space left for cycling lanes unless we ban cars which as much as I wish for will never happen in my lifetime.
Re: No ‘carmageddon’ on auto-free Market Street: study shows bikes and buses benefit
#10The linked article (1) says the redesign will have "sidewalk level bike lanes". If there's a way for local people to comment on this, please encourage these to be changed to in-between-road-and-sidewalk level. (Or road level with a continuous kerb in between). This makes it much, much easier for pedestrians not to accidentally wander into the lane. (2) 1 https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Car-free-Market-...…
As a Dutchie blunders like the one you mention are so stupifying... Takes you a ten minute visit to NL to figure out why you need to separate modalities consistently, yet even as close as Germany and France cities are designed so obviously by people who never ever bike.
Yes, I saw a video recently talking about how stupid it is to use the common term "vulnerable road users". It lumps cyclists and pedestrians together even though their needs are very different.
"We'll just put all the vulnerable road users off to the side here. Cyclists don't mind if they have to cross a road at every single junction right?"