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Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods

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Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods

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Post by DuskStar »

snowron6 wrote: post #169
handedness wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure. But selective enforcement of rules on a platform undermines its value as a platform.

If anything, the_donald has gotten preferential treatment compared to everyone else. They've routinely broke rules and ignored warnings from admins. If any other subreddit did what they've done it'd be banned instantly. Instead Reddit keeps giving r/T_D leeway because they don't want to seem biased. Here's a list from a year ago of rules they've broken: https://old.reddit.com/r/AgainstHateSubreddits/comments/851r...

I'm not sure that AgainstHateSubreddits is exactly an impartial observer here. Or anything close to it.

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Post by s_y_n_t_a_x »

sixstringtheory wrote: post #208
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Free speech isn't limited to the government. The government may be the only entity legally obligated to uphold it, but we can still be unhappy when others elect to suppress it.

You can be unhappy, absolutely. But you still don’t get to dictate what reddit does or to what their users should be subjected.

I don't think anyone was trying to dictate what they do, they are just voicing their disdain.

It's a very reasonable thing to be unhappy about, and a great way to lose users.

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Post by Bendingo »

T-hawk wrote: post #107
ehsankia wrote: post #25

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Correct me if I'm wrong and I read it wrong, but I think you're mixing up things here. > Users that have more than 500 karma in quarantined subreddits outside of The Donald will not be allowed on the list of approved applicants [to be a moderator] This is only for being a moderator. Simply upvoting posts (that don't break any rules) in quarantined subreddits does not get you punished. > If the content that people are…

> Simply upvoting posts (that don't break any rules) in quarantined subreddits does not get you punished. The problem is that parenthetical, and determining it. Users were told that upvoting rule-breaking posts would risk a sitewide ban, without being told what content it was or what rules it broke . Reddit says it gets to punish users by declaring any content "bad", by arbitrary or overly broad or even unspecified r…

> This is not trying to improve behavior, this is trying to deplatform wrongthink.

100% correct.

Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods

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Post by s_y_n_t_a_x »

resters wrote: post #188
chrisco255 wrote: post #99

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You're shocked that there are people who support liberty as a concept and they are anti-China as a result?

Supporting "liberty" would lead just as logically to being "anti-China" as it would to being "anti-US". China is perhaps more authoritarian, but not fundamentally different.

Tell that to the people in their "re-education centers" or the people who have had their organs harvested.

The US may not be innocent, but it is nothing like China.

> Perhaps more authoritarian

Understatement of the century.

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Post by threatofrain »

sneak wrote: post #135
Traster wrote: post #21

I find it kind of funny that people are getting so excited. Reddit has long had a policy of banning users who breach the site rules. /r/The_donald has long had a policy of breaching site rules including brigading, harassment, threats and sharing personal information. The users of that forum have literally been linked to public shootings. Given how often the breaches occur it seems quite reasonable to actually step in…

> The users of that forum have literally been linked to public shootings. I dislike that subreddit as much as anyone, but that’s guilt by peaceful association and can be leveled at a lot of different websites, video games, and political parties. Let’s not go there.

Anything by association is part of reality and I'm not sure how people are supposed to negotiate with that. If you march with a KKK rally, are you associated with the KKK now?

Also, presumably not everything the KKK does is bad. Is it wrong that people in the KKK are all lumped together?

These are all questions of guilt by association, no?

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Post by s_y_n_t_a_x »

brokensegue wrote: post #233
s_y_n_t_a_x wrote: post #125

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50% according to Gallup 46.4% according to the RCP polling average, within the margin of error to say half. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_tru... The average approval rating is strong enough to hold my point that there is a large number of supporters, do you disagree?

there's no doubt there is a large number of supporters. the evidence suggests that number is less than 50%

My sources I linked above suggest otherwise.

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Post by seoulmetro »

rimunroe wrote: post #232
fuck_u_pjc50 wrote: post #228

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Are you kidding me? This is like saying J.D. Salinger should have taken responsibility for John Lennon's death. Any looney toon on the block can reinterpret someone else's words to validate their insane desire to shoot up a Dairy Queen because they got the toppings wrong on their ice cream.

Asking yourself why you were mentioned is not at all the same thing as taking responsibility. If a mass shooter mentioned how much they appreciated me, my work, or a group I ran (or was even in) I'd be concerned and would wonder why. That seems like a perfectly healthy response.

Actually that's the opposite of a healthy response. There's no reason to investigate why someone likes something unless it played an active role in the thing that is being investigated. Asking yourself why Joe Dirt liked listening to your podcast about cats and listed it on his BAD THING manifesto is truly at the polar opposite end of what normal people would do. They would definitely not feel concerned that he listed them as an inspiration.

I bet a lot of people like doughnuts. Just because they might write that in something when they get infamous does not make a doughnut shop question their actions.

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Post by Bendingo »

ehsankia wrote: post #144
defertoreptar wrote: post #118

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> This is only for being a moderator. Simply upvoting posts (that don't break any rules) in quarantined subreddits does not get you punished. That was a requirement given for being a new mod at /r/the_donald. There is also a separate, new rule change revealed in the recent "Transparency Report" that says that users who consistently upvote rule-breaking content will be banned. > The whole point of a quarantine is exac…

I'm sorry but this is classic tinfoil conspiracy theorizing. I do regularly check T_D out of curiosity, and almost every single time I see rule breaking comments in top posts. Threats of violence, doxxing, etc. If you can find similar content on left leaning subreddits on a regular basis that doesn't get reported and deleted right away, then I'd be happy to entertain your theory, but I have not seen it. Also, the Don…

> I see rule breaking comments in top posts. Threats of violence, doxxing, etc.

I also check out t_d occasionally and have never seen a single threat of anything.

On the contrary, the community seems well self-regulated. I have often seen comments that are overly harsh (such as unnecessary personal insults) being condemned by other posters for being disrespectful. I have never seen this on any other forum. IMO t_d is a model for free, open and respectful self-regulated discussion.

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Post by jessaustin »

brokensegue wrote: post #233
s_y_n_t_a_x wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

50% according to Gallup 46.4% according to the RCP polling average, within the margin of error to say half. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_tru... The average approval rating is strong enough to hold my point that there is a large number of supporters, do you disagree?

there's no doubt there is a large number of supporters. the evidence suggests that number is less than 50%

Just wait. Next week they'll be trying to impeach him because he asked the prime minister of Italy for a pizza. By the end of that, he'll be up at about 58%. Good job!
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