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Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods

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Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods

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What about brigading, harassment and intent to incite violence of other subreddits related to Sanders, r/politics, r/news, r/worldnews? Are they under similar quarantines and rules?

Do you have any examples of 'intent to incite violence' from those subreddits? The difference is that moderators of those subreddits try to remove that type of content.

Do you have any examples of 'intent to incite violence' from t_d?

Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods

#182

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I'm sorry but this is classic tinfoil conspiracy theorizing. I do regularly check T_D out of curiosity, and almost every single time I see rule breaking comments in top posts. Threats of violence, doxxing, etc. If you can find similar content on left leaning subreddits on a regular basis that doesn't get reported and deleted right away, then I'd be happy to entertain your theory, but I have not seen it. Also, the Don…

I wasn't just talking about the_donald, but the broader effects of no longer having the promise of a "secret ballot." When people know their vote is being observed, they change their behavior. My point is how this will favor Reddit's political majority and disfavor the minority.

> My point is how this will favor Reddit's political majority and disfavor the minority.

If you cannot support a political position without consistently violating Reddit's rules that do not restrict any normal behaviors of reasonable political debate, then what you're supporting probably shouldn't be described merely as a "political minority".

Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods

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I find it kind of funny that people are getting so excited. Reddit has long had a policy of banning users who breach the site rules. /r/The_donald has long had a policy of breaching site rules including brigading, harassment, threats and sharing personal information. The users of that forum have literally been linked to public shootings. Given how often the breaches occur it seems quite reasonable to actually step in…

What about brigading, harassment and intent to incite violence of other subreddits related to Sanders, r/politics, r/news, r/worldnews? Are they under similar quarantines and rules?

They quite literally are subject to the same rules, they comply with those rules though. There's a very distinct difference between what /r/politics does - which is comply with the rules to the best of their abilities, vs what /r/the_donald does which is to turn a blind eye because they disagree with the rules.

Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods

#184

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Do you have any examples of 'intent to incite violence' from those subreddits? The difference is that moderators of those subreddits try to remove that type of content.

Do you have any examples of 'intent to incite violence' from t_d?

Pizzagate?

Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods

#185

I personally think that this article buried the lede as far as controversial Reddit actions go. Users now can be (and have been) banned for upvoting posts in quarantined subreddits (both on the right - T_D - and the left - Chapo Trap House - among others). I've seen controversy erupt all around Reddit about this and it doesn't feel right to me. If the content that people are upvoting is bad enough to get banned over…

As far as I understand none of the people who are being warned for upvoting are given a copy of the post that triggered the warning. This makes it quite difficult for people to adjust their behaviour because they might be upvoting content the genuinely believe is not breaking the rules. If you weren’t assuming good faith on Reddit’s part then you might suspect they were doing this so they could distribute warnings to users who were supporting wrong opinions. The more innocent explanation is they either overlooked this or they don’t want to distribute the rule breaking content. I believe twitter often shows you a copy of the offending tweet when you get temporarily suspended.

Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods

#186
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So I tried to visit https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/ to see what the fuss is about, but apparently Reddit wants me to jump through hoops to give them my email to even be able to view it. Is there any archive site or whatever that will let me view this subreddit without giving reddit my personal information?

AFAIK, when you make a reddit account it asks you for your email, but you can just leave that field blank.

Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods

#187
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I find it kind of funny that people are getting so excited. Reddit has long had a policy of banning users who breach the site rules. /r/The_donald has long had a policy of breaching site rules including brigading, harassment, threats and sharing personal information. The users of that forum have literally been linked to public shootings. Given how often the breaches occur it seems quite reasonable to actually step in…

That's not true. It's plastered all over not to brigade. NP links are required to prevent it. Ironically T_D deals with brigading from other subs all the time. The mods at T_D have followed every rule to the tee. Other subs are not expected to control all of their users, but at least to enforce the site rules, T_D mods have done this. I haven't seen any evidence otherwise. Guilty until proven innocent if we want to u…

Which is exactly why they have also started temp-banning and banning people who consistently upvote posts that break the rules.

Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods

#188
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HN is actually surprisingly pro-Trump. I have been shocked at the broad support for economic nationalism (trade protectionism, etc.) from HN participants, as well as the chorus of agreement with Trump's anti-China stance.

You're shocked that there are people who support liberty as a concept and they are anti-China as a result?

Supporting "liberty" would lead just as logically to being "anti-China" as it would to being "anti-US". China is perhaps more authoritarian, but not fundamentally different.

Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods

#189

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I wasn't just talking about the_donald, but the broader effects of no longer having the promise of a "secret ballot." When people know their vote is being observed, they change their behavior. My point is how this will favor Reddit's political majority and disfavor the minority.

> My point is how this will favor Reddit's political majority and disfavor the minority. If you cannot support a political position without consistently violating Reddit's rules that do not restrict any normal behaviors of reasonable political debate, then what you're supporting probably shouldn't be described merely as a "political minority".

Your assumption here is that the enforcement of the new rule will be executed perfectly and without bias, and further that people will believe it will be enforced that way. This totally misses my central point.

Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods

#190
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I find it kind of funny that people are getting so excited. Reddit has long had a policy of banning users who breach the site rules. /r/The_donald has long had a policy of breaching site rules including brigading, harassment, threats and sharing personal information. The users of that forum have literally been linked to public shootings. Given how often the breaches occur it seems quite reasonable to actually step in…

That's not true. It's plastered all over not to brigade. NP links are required to prevent it. Ironically T_D deals with brigading from other subs all the time. The mods at T_D have followed every rule to the tee. Other subs are not expected to control all of their users, but at least to enforce the site rules, T_D mods have done this. I haven't seen any evidence otherwise. Guilty until proven innocent if we want to u…

You are ignoring the obvious for anyone observing the sub since its creation. I had meme post on Reddit long ago near its creation on if the sub was satire or not (it was started as satire in support of candidate Trump). Think AdviceAnimals Afroid to Ask Andy meme from Parks and Rec. Shortly after that the mod team turned over and it went down it's current path of clear rule breaking, racism, misogyny, and worse. You could read through the comment son most posts and find any sort of rule breaking behavior if not outright calls for violence. It's an echo chamber mods could not (or would not) stay on top of with a ton of reports to Reddit admins.

The current policy applied is to stifle the sub without a full ban to eliminate publication of its death. The policies for new mods are designed to either force in people who are disconnected from typical subscribers and can enforce the rules without bias or demonstrate how much of a cesspool it is and strengthen the argument to remove entirely.

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