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Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods

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Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods

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Post by handedness »

ordinaryradical wrote: post #35
baalimago wrote: post #20

The 'frontpage of the internet' is actively taking control of the subreddit of a presidential candidate, in an election year. I know that HN is highly against Trump, and probably cheer for this decision, but how is this not a democratic issue?

Reddit is a private enterprise and enforces its own rules for conduct across all communities and the_donald has routinely broken those roles as have the moderators. You don't have free speech on a private platform nor is there any democratic mandate to how Reddit must operate.

Regardless of where you fall on the ideological spectrum, selective enforcement is a significant problem: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_enforcement

Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods

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Post by macspoofing »

bmarquez wrote: post #28

This is incredibly disturbing, in light of the fact Reddit's CEO was once caught secretly editing[1] the comments of The Donald's users. Can't assume this is being done in good faith as the comments leading The Donald to be quarantined could be edits, or shill accounts. I'm sure someone will say "their website, their rules" but in that case it's better to just ban it entirely instead of engaging in subversive practic…

>This is incredibly disturbing

Meh. You're blowing this out of proportion.

>in light of the fact Reddit's CEO was once caught secretly editing

Again, you're making this seem more nefarious than it actually was. He did it because he thought it would be appreciated (obviously he was wrong). In the end, it was a dumb and immature move from a young, rookie CEO ... on a social network site (i.e. not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things)

I don't really see this action by Reddit to be newsworthy at all. There are a lot of subreddits that straddle the line of being banned. The_Donald is certainly one of those communities.

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Post by Traster »

baalimago wrote: post #20

The 'frontpage of the internet' is actively taking control of the subreddit of a presidential candidate, in an election year. I know that HN is highly against Trump, and probably cheer for this decision, but how is this not a democratic issue?

Go and start you own website, create a sub-page for /r/president_warren and fill it with gay porn. It's not a democratic issue. It's also worth noting, /r/the_donald isn't and has never been controlled by actual people associated with the Trump campaign so to describe it as "the subreddit of a presidential candidate" is frankly just incorrect. It's a sub-reddit for supporters of a candidate, and those users happen to also be repeat offenders under the site-wide policies.

Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods

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Post by baybal2 »

maverick2007 wrote: post #7

I personally think that this article buried the lede as far as controversial Reddit actions go. Users now can be (and have been) banned for upvoting posts in quarantined subreddits (both on the right - T_D - and the left - Chapo Trap House - among others). I've seen controversy erupt all around Reddit about this and it doesn't feel right to me. If the content that people are upvoting is bad enough to get banned over…

FYI, Reddit's major investors include one big Internet company from Shenzhen

Advance publications is also having huge exposure to China through Condenast's business in China

Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods

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Post by loxs »

ordinaryradical wrote: post #38
loxs wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, Trump memes are now fascism? Are we going to be surprised (again) when he wins again?

This is a bad take. I don't follow the_donald or its memes. I'm saying that if you build a community that is committed to breaking the rules of reddit it's going to get banned. You can insert knitting for fascism. It's the same across the board.

Only difference is that apparently fascism violates the ToS and knitting does not.

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Post by istorical »

maverick2007 wrote: post #7

I personally think that this article buried the lede as far as controversial Reddit actions go. Users now can be (and have been) banned for upvoting posts in quarantined subreddits (both on the right - T_D - and the left - Chapo Trap House - among others). I've seen controversy erupt all around Reddit about this and it doesn't feel right to me. If the content that people are upvoting is bad enough to get banned over…

You didn't even mention the worst aspect of the upvote policy which is that when they warn you not to upvote content that goes against their content policy they don't tell you what you upvoted that was found to infringe it. You have to try to guess what you did wrong I guess?

Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods

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Post by runeb »

jermaustin1 wrote: post #43
runeb wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can you own data that is submitted to a site you don't own? Or do users submit to hacker news through your site?

I do not own it in a legal/licensed sense, I own the bytes that are stored in my database. As it it is easily queryable by me, where it wouldn't normally be if only using the API.

Ah, thanks for the clarification! English isnt my first language.

Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods

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Post by toomuchtodo »

handedness wrote: post #39
Agenttin wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the end, the reddit admins aren't responsible for moderating whatsapp. Replacing TD moderators isn't a solution to end white nationalism, it's just about policing a forum which consistently flaunts site rules. If those people want to build their own site, with blackjack and hookers, they're more than welcome to. I mean, that's where Voat came from.

Whatever one's personal views, selective enforcement has been used as a stick with which to beat certain groups and should concern everyone, even if–perhaps especially if–you aren't a member of the group being beaten at the moment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_enforcement

Reddit’s platform, Reddit’s rules. I get to pick and choose who I let yell from my front yard too, but the sidewalk is mostly fair game.

Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods

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Post by bonyt »

maverick2007 wrote: post #7

I personally think that this article buried the lede as far as controversial Reddit actions go. Users now can be (and have been) banned for upvoting posts in quarantined subreddits (both on the right - T_D - and the left - Chapo Trap House - among others). I've seen controversy erupt all around Reddit about this and it doesn't feel right to me. If the content that people are upvoting is bad enough to get banned over…

> Users now can be (and have been) banned for upvoting posts in quarantined subreddits

I've heard this thrown around, but I thought it was for upvoting posts that are later removed for violating Reddit's rules - not just upvoting any posts on quarantined subreddits.

I can't figure out if this is the case, though, here is what Reddit said, I think:

> Users who consistently upvote policy-breaking content within quarantined communities will receive automated warnings, followed by further consequences like a temporary or permanent suspension.

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