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Show HN: Pep – Turn Your Website into a Progressive Web App

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Re: Show HN: Pep – Turn Your Website into a Progressive Web App

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Hi guys! I don't want to build native apps. So I built Pep. It turns your website into a Progressive Web App (PWA) with one line of code. It's kind of like Workbox ( https://developers.google.com/web/tools/workbox ), but with adaptive pre-fetching, CDN, and responsive asset batteries included. I'd love your input; feedback is how good products become great.

Your site is not Lighthouse compliant. Why should I trust your service?

Re: Show HN: Pep – Turn Your Website into a Progressive Web App

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"Your static JavaScript, CSS, and images are automatically minified, optimized, and hosted globally on Google's Cloud" That's a non-starter for me. Google screwed me hard years ago when I was using their Adwords. I can't forgive or forget that.

If it’s a static bundle, I think cloud deployment should be trivial...at worst they can add a feature to download a zip and sync to s3. I wouldn’t rule out this tool based on this fact alone.

Re: Show HN: Pep – Turn Your Website into a Progressive Web App

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I've deployed a full PWA (by lighthouse standard) and its hard to understand how can you comply with one line of code. Ex how do you define the installable icon for the Add to home screen icon ? Or how do you choose what gets in the cache for offline access ? PS : this is your score https://www.webpagetest.org/result/200227_PT_b799b0e13e0417b...

It's possible to add head elements with JavaScript, so you could define any number of things with a single added script. Not sure if that's what they're doing here, but certainly a possibility.

Re: Show HN: Pep – Turn Your Website into a Progressive Web App

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Hi guys! I don't want to build native apps. So I built Pep. It turns your website into a Progressive Web App (PWA) with one line of code. It's kind of like Workbox ( https://developers.google.com/web/tools/workbox ), but with adaptive pre-fetching, CDN, and responsive asset batteries included. I'd love your input; feedback is how good products become great.

Without a worked example to look at, this looks like an email harvesting operation.

Re: Show HN: Pep – Turn Your Website into a Progressive Web App

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Can someone explain what a PWA is? I tried reading the official Mozilla docs and wikipedia. I don't understand - how do these apps work like "native" apps if they are not using native UI kits and running inside a browser? That's not really "native". Native app to me is like macOS Mail or Sublime Text. I don't consider any of the electron apps (Slack, VSCode) as "native". There is a real beauty of using native apps. I…

What if I told you that macOS Mail and Sublime Text was made with "web" techbology? You can make slow apps with bad UI in any language or framework, JavaScript just makes the barrier to entry lower, so you will get more shitty apps. Progressive web app (PWA) just means that it use feature detection to enhance itself. The most notably features are "add2desktop" and "service workers". "add2desktop" lets you add the app…

> macOS Mail... made with web technology

Do you have a source for this? Mail content may very well be rendered in a web view (which is unsurprising given rich text and HTML are underpinnings of email), but I’d be surprised if the UI and widgets aren’t native.

Re: Show HN: Pep – Turn Your Website into a Progressive Web App

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“The results speak for themselves: Pinterest..., Twitter..., FlipKart..., AliExpress..., Forbes..., Lancôme...” Did any of them use Pep? Doesn’t look like it. I’d say this is deceptive marketing. Not sure if it’s trademark violation.

It specifically talks about benefits of PWAs, not Pep. All of those sites built PWAs.

Re: Show HN: Pep – Turn Your Website into a Progressive Web App

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"Your static JavaScript, CSS, and images are automatically minified, optimized, and hosted globally on Google's Cloud" That's a non-starter for me. Google screwed me hard years ago when I was using their Adwords. I can't forgive or forget that.

Huh. How did Google screw you?

Pep's not married to Google's CDN. Which other CDN(s) do you, or would you prefer to, use over Google's?

Thank you for weighing in.

Re: Show HN: Pep – Turn Your Website into a Progressive Web App

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“The results speak for themselves: Pinterest..., Twitter..., FlipKart..., AliExpress..., Forbes..., Lancôme...” Did any of them use Pep? Doesn’t look like it. I’d say this is deceptive marketing. Not sure if it’s trademark violation.

It specifically talks about benefits of PWAs, not Pep. All of those sites built PWAs.

I checked the flow of the page again, yeah, the section does come directly after “PWA benefits” which doesn’t mention Pep at all. So technically it’s not deceptive.

As for whether it’s actually deceptive...

Re: Show HN: Pep – Turn Your Website into a Progressive Web App

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if I told you that macOS Mail and Sublime Text was made with "web" techbology? You can make slow apps with bad UI in any language or framework, JavaScript just makes the barrier to entry lower, so you will get more shitty apps. Progressive web app (PWA) just means that it use feature detection to enhance itself. The most notably features are "add2desktop" and "service workers". "add2desktop" lets you add the app…

> macOS Mail... made with web technology Do you have a source for this? Mail content may very well be rendered in a web view (which is unsurprising given rich text and HTML are underpinnings of email), but I’d be surprised if the UI and widgets aren’t native.

If the app is any good you should not notice what stack it was built with. It was a hypothetical question, I actually have no idea.

Re: Show HN: Pep – Turn Your Website into a Progressive Web App

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post #18

"Your static JavaScript, CSS, and images are automatically minified, optimized, and hosted globally on Google's Cloud" That's a non-starter for me. Google screwed me hard years ago when I was using their Adwords. I can't forgive or forget that.

If it’s a static bundle, I think cloud deployment should be trivial...at worst they can add a feature to download a zip and sync to s3. I wouldn’t rule out this tool based on this fact alone.

Yep. Pep's definitely not married to Google nor its CDN.

If Google precludes certain users, we'll switch to something that doesn't.

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