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A hacker's mom broke into a prison and the warden's computer

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In the same vein: It’s not young thugs that come in to medical centers trying to score painkillers; it’s middle-aged suburban moms. The former know where to buy on the street. It’s the latter that think of trying to lie to their doc. But in practice we tend to be more suspicious of the former.

Young adults (age 18 to 25) are the worst offenders of prescription abuse, the largest increase in opioid abuse has been in rural America, and men are 140% as likely to die from opioid abuse. So you have classified the greatest threat as female, suburban, and adult, but the statistics seem to indicate male, rural, and young adult. You are in danger of being pen tested.

Initial opioid overdose numbers favored men over women a long time ago, but that hasn't been the case for a while: in the period of 1999 to 2010, male opioid ODs climbed in men by about 240%, in women by 400% (CDC 2013 Prescription Painkiller Overdoses).

It's also worth noting that "who dies from opioid overdose" and "who is more likely to use a doctor to get their fix" are two different discussions, not least of all because "who dies from opiate overdose" is unrelated to "source of opioid." In the period 2005 to 2015, the likelihood of a prescription drug being the initiating drug dropped in half, while the likelihood of it being heroin went up about four-fold (Cicero, Ellis, Kasper 2017).

As to women being the ones who walk into the medical center, note that the CDC's Drug Abuse Warning Network shows that the leading age groups to walk into an ED are women 25-34, 45-54, and 35-44 in that order (though the downward bump for 35-44 isn't really that big - it really is the center of the bell curve).

The big increase in "rural" areas is messy. The actual data shows "non-major urban", and lumps together "small urban" and "rural". Given how medically underserved rural areas are in the US, however, I'd say the anecdata that it's suburban is more consistent with "non-urban growth favoring the non-urban areas that actually have prescription-writers in them." (Cicero et al 2014)

The shift went from very-young inner city males getting heroin as their first drug to white middle-aged currently-as-many-women-as-men (but the velocity of growth is much higher in women) using scripts to, now, going back to heroin as scripts are harder to come by.

Lastly, the previous comment compared "young thugs" (15 yo inner-city males were the predominant opioid abusers in the 80s and 90s, and are traditionally the stereotype for opioid abuse) to the unsuspected-but-common addict that walks in the door today, analogous to the Mom PenTester in the original article. And, indeed, the opioid abuser of yester-year was not prescription-based: they weren't hitting up their physician. It seems like they were saying "the old stereotype that we suspect leads us to ignore this common and inconspicuous thing that is actually the risk." Which you've taken to mean "this common thing we don't adequately suspect is the defining description of what opioid abusers look like."

Re: A hacker's mom broke into a prison and the warden's computer

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This is absolutely a thing. I worked at a fortune small-cap where the IT department was absolutely insidious. They would undermine anyone who they didn't like, or who opposed their nonsense. I wrote a lot of backend stuff, and they would spend far more effort and money denying us servers and resources than it would have taken to simply get those things for us. They'd tell us developers we couldn't use the OS's our pr…

Wait, what was your point here? That women actually are wonderful?

Are they not?

Re: A hacker's mom broke into a prison and the warden's computer

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This also demonstrates an uncomfortable situation. There are certain types of bias in favor of women that help out with these kinds of situations. His mom likely was benefitting from a positive bias that she was harmless and fulfilled the presumption about what an inspector may look like... Something like this "Women are wonderful effect"[1]. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_are_wonderful_effect

A little off topic, but the controversy section of that article raises some interesting points, though Wikipedia tends to be a little behind mentioning latest research in social science articles.

Re: A hacker's mom broke into a prison and the warden's computer

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This is absolutely a thing. I worked at a fortune small-cap where the IT department was absolutely insidious. They would undermine anyone who they didn't like, or who opposed their nonsense. I wrote a lot of backend stuff, and they would spend far more effort and money denying us servers and resources than it would have taken to simply get those things for us. They'd tell us developers we couldn't use the OS's our pr…

Wait, what was your point here? That women actually are wonderful?

I assumed the point is that the combative developers saw the new CIO as harmless and didn't fight her as with the others CIOs.

Re: A hacker's mom broke into a prison and the warden's computer

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In the US sometimes the evidence isn't clear that facilitating "join back to society" is an actual goal (it's often a stated goal). It often doesn't seem to be a policy priority.

It most definitely isn't a priority: If it were, the US would look at other countries with lower recidivism rates and spend a bit more on things like mental health care, halfway houses, job placement, and so on.

While I agree that the US prison system has many issues, recidivism rates can't really be compared between countries because of differences in time frames and rearrest vs re-conviction.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4472929/

Re: A hacker's mom broke into a prison and the warden's computer

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post #39

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This is absolutely a thing. I worked at a fortune small-cap where the IT department was absolutely insidious. They would undermine anyone who they didn't like, or who opposed their nonsense. I wrote a lot of backend stuff, and they would spend far more effort and money denying us servers and resources than it would have taken to simply get those things for us. They'd tell us developers we couldn't use the OS's our pr…

Wait, what was your point here? That women actually are wonderful?

Sounds like society is so biased in favor of women that they can get away with breaking shit (whether accident or intentional).

Re: A hacker's mom broke into a prison and the warden's computer

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Is it wrong that I find it a terrible thing that people aren't allowed computers with internet or cellphones in prison? How do we expect people to join back to society when they can't use literally the number one most important thing? Maybe give them phones with no cameras and monitoring of use, but just nothing seems very inhumane.

I saw a youtube video recently about the extensive use of cell phones to play old school runescape. Like it’s everywhere in every prison in the last couple of years. People not only play it but also use it’s currency for real world trading. Apparently violent behavior is down wherever people are playing. I’d love to find corroborating evidence for this, because I find it completely facinating.

Sounds like a solid Wired (or whoever) longread!

Re: A hacker's mom broke into a prison and the warden's computer

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Wait, what was your point here? That women actually are wonderful?

I assumed the point is that the combative developers saw the new CIO as harmless and didn't fight her as with the others CIOs.

That was the point, thank you.

Re: A hacker's mom broke into a prison and the warden's computer

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> In 2016, Rita died of pancreatic cancer; she never had a chance to do another pen test. Strand declined to say which prison his mother infiltrated, only that it has since shut down. After reading the rest of the story, that was a gut punch!

Well, you've heard of burner phones -- welcome to 'the burner hacker'.
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