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Re: Hasura raises $9.9M to simplify GraphQL

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Post by batmansmk »

MadWombat wrote: post #103

One thing that bothers me about systems like this is the underlying assumption that database architecture always reflects the presentation. But what if ti doesn't? I am looking at the Hasura docs and all it really says is "we will generate everything for you based on your database schema and here is the way we do it". But what if I don't want some tables to be exposed? What if I want to expose custom queries instead…

Data-driven architectures are very relevant, in particular in a corporate / business environment.

I found all the answers in the docs.

A SQL Schema can carry a custom query, it's called a view.

A SQL Schema can carry a custom algorithm, it's called a function or a generated column.

You can always deactivate permissions on a table to not expose it, my bet is that your backoffice will need to though.

On top of that, Hasura supports custom resolvers (code driven endpoints).

Finally you can stitch 2 GraphQL schemas together. It doesn't have to be one size fits all. So even if only 50% of your app can fit in the model of Hasura, you can always mix and match. It's still 50% that will be up and running in minutes.

Re: Hasura raises $9.9M to simplify GraphQL

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Post by elitan »

pramodliv1 wrote: post #97
elitan wrote: post #22

This is fantastic to see. First time I tried out Hasura back in late 2018 I was AMAZED. After going through multiple different stacks such as MeteorJS, Firebase, building my own REST/GraphQL API etc. Nothing really felt right. That was until I found out about Hasura. I actually had to assemble a quick meetup at the co-working space I was on (true story) to show everybody this software. Hasura Tweet: https://twitter.c…

I spent 3 days setting up Hasura a few weeks ago and I wish I'd known about Nhost. Do you know why Hasura don't provide a managed service themselves? Also, I wonder if Hasura will eventually move to a MongoDB-like license.

I'm sorry that we are not doing a better job marketing Nhost. We have been very focused on the product but we hope to get the word out better in the future. Because you are not alone. There are lots of developers with the same problem, that just want things to work.

Hopefully, we will be mentioned in the documentation for Hasura.

Hasura does provide a hosted version (EDIT: not a hosted version) (Hasura Pro). You can read more about it here: https://hasura.io/hasura-pro

Re: Hasura raises $9.9M to simplify GraphQL

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Post by elitan »

city41 wrote: post #100
elitan wrote: post #22

This is fantastic to see. First time I tried out Hasura back in late 2018 I was AMAZED. After going through multiple different stacks such as MeteorJS, Firebase, building my own REST/GraphQL API etc. Nothing really felt right. That was until I found out about Hasura. I actually had to assemble a quick meetup at the co-working space I was on (true story) to show everybody this software. Hasura Tweet: https://twitter.c…

I've been shopping around all the BAAS offerings and nhost is really intriguing. Thanks for sharing.

Happy to hear. Let me know if you got some advice for us to improve the product.

Re: Hasura raises $9.9M to simplify GraphQL

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Post by [deleted] »

pier25 wrote: post #49
elitan wrote: post #22

This is fantastic to see. First time I tried out Hasura back in late 2018 I was AMAZED. After going through multiple different stacks such as MeteorJS, Firebase, building my own REST/GraphQL API etc. Nothing really felt right. That was until I found out about Hasura. I actually had to assemble a quick meetup at the co-working space I was on (true story) to show everybody this software. Hasura Tweet: https://twitter.c…

Do you offer rate and depth limiting?

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Re: Hasura raises $9.9M to simplify GraphQL

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Post by elitan »

saadshamim wrote: post #99
elitan wrote: post #22

This is fantastic to see. First time I tried out Hasura back in late 2018 I was AMAZED. After going through multiple different stacks such as MeteorJS, Firebase, building my own REST/GraphQL API etc. Nothing really felt right. That was until I found out about Hasura. I actually had to assemble a quick meetup at the co-working space I was on (true story) to show everybody this software. Hasura Tweet: https://twitter.c…

@elithan this looks awesome man. The one thing keeping me in the firebase ecosystem is the firestore rules (basically quick CRUD permissions). Does nhost provide something similar?

Yes. Hasura handles this in their permission system and they do an excellent job. Super easy to get started with.

Together with Nhost's auth system and Hasura, it's easier than Firebase.

Re: Hasura raises $9.9M to simplify GraphQL

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Post by city41 »

elitan wrote: post #113
city41 wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been shopping around all the BAAS offerings and nhost is really intriguing. Thanks for sharing.

Happy to hear. Let me know if you got some advice for us to improve the product.

I'm reading through the docs now. They are pretty good! I assume I could just use say Apollo on the client? Maybe that part of the docs could use some additional info.

Re: Hasura raises $9.9M to simplify GraphQL

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Post by saadshamim »

pier25 wrote: post #49
elitan wrote: post #22

This is fantastic to see. First time I tried out Hasura back in late 2018 I was AMAZED. After going through multiple different stacks such as MeteorJS, Firebase, building my own REST/GraphQL API etc. Nothing really felt right. That was until I found out about Hasura. I actually had to assemble a quick meetup at the co-working space I was on (true story) to show everybody this software. Hasura Tweet: https://twitter.c…

Do you offer rate and depth limiting?

Hasura has this feature, but unfortunately it seems like its part of their "pro/enterprise" offering and not the OS version. https://hasura.io/hasura-pro

Re: Hasura raises $9.9M to simplify GraphQL

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Post by sadturnip »

tango12 wrote: post #98
sadturnip wrote: post #95

I tried Hasura in the past and unfortunately found it unsuitable for our auth requirements. There is no way currently to hook into their authorization system, you get extremely basic RBAC and if that isn't good enough for you too bad. For example we currently are required to talk to some external auth services (depends on the customer) and fetch the users permissions based on that, (e.g. user can READ notes, and WRIT…

Hasura's authz is whatever authz you can derive from the data within your database or from the claims embedded in the authn token. If you have a table that contains the claims for each user, then you can reference that in the authz rule for any other table/view/function. READ notes if user.is_note_reader = true. We're working on making it easy to integrate resource claims and rule engines that are external as well (m…

Unfortunately we do not have these claims defined in our auth token or the datasource hasura is attached to. We have an external session cache service in Redis. If the user isn't cached we need to hit an internal API to attempt to fetch this information for us and return it to us. No user information is stored in our auth token/database.

Actions look painful, i don't want to write and maintain microservices just to do simple actions. I just want to be able to write code and handle the hook around the function. Also from the link it only seems like actions occur AFTER something happens, i need the ability to run before changes are persisted.

Re: Hasura raises $9.9M to simplify GraphQL

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Post by tango12 »

MadWombat wrote: post #103

One thing that bothers me about systems like this is the underlying assumption that database architecture always reflects the presentation. But what if ti doesn't? I am looking at the Hasura docs and all it really says is "we will generate everything for you based on your database schema and here is the way we do it". But what if I don't want some tables to be exposed? What if I want to expose custom queries instead…

> I feel that products like Hasura and postgrest would be a lot more useful if there was a way for me to specify a list of data sources on one side and get a fully formed GraphQL or REST service on the other side rather than going "I know what you need better than you" route.

Hasura internally has a metadata engine that does exactly this. You explicitly specify what tables/views/functions you want to expose and how you want to expose them. You can use Hasura authz to further constrain what data is accessed/returned while a query runs. In its default configuration when you start Hasura against your Postgres, Hasura exposes nothing.

Re: Hasura raises $9.9M to simplify GraphQL

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Post by tango12 »

elitan wrote: post #112
pramodliv1 wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I spent 3 days setting up Hasura a few weeks ago and I wish I'd known about Nhost. Do you know why Hasura don't provide a managed service themselves? Also, I wonder if Hasura will eventually move to a MongoDB-like license.

I'm sorry that we are not doing a better job marketing Nhost. We have been very focused on the product but we hope to get the word out better in the future. Because you are not alone. There are lots of developers with the same problem, that just want things to work. Hopefully, we will be mentioned in the documentation for Hasura. Hasura does provide a hosted version (EDIT: not a hosted version) (Hasura Pro). You can…

Hey!

1. We're working on adding nhost to the Hasura docs as a deployment guide for when you'd like authn + files + hosted postgres in one neat place. Johan just did a slick demo in the community call right now :)

2. To clarify: Hasura Pro is not a hosted version of Hasura. It's an agent that is added to wherever Hasura happens to be running for enabling monitoring/testing features.

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