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A hacker's mom broke into a prison and the warden's computer

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Re: A hacker's mom broke into a prison and the warden's computer

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Articles like these are a great anecdote of the ease of getting people into security.

Despite the need for people, you'll still encounter a lot of barriers to getting a job.

It doesn't make sense to have a bunch of hoops to jump through when the demand is there, you can train people easily, and there are people willing to learn.

You can disregard 99% of calls-to-action regarding security hiring and talent demand.

Re: A hacker's mom broke into a prison and the warden's computer

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These stories always make me wonder how many malicious infiltrations occur that are never discovered or reported? It could happen all the time, especially at places much less secure. It's certainly far riskier to infiltrate a prison (where all the guards have guns) than a corporate office.

Well in Georgia we have had a few reports from the prison system about what they confiscate from prisoners. [0]. Look at what they are finding just among the prisoners so imagine how much easier it is to smuggle into the staff areas anything you want. Nearly two thousand cell phones, four times that number in make shift weapons, and of course drugs. Cell phones are a particular problem because it has been shown that…

There is such a demand for phones in prisons that there are companies that manufacturer "prison phones" that easily fit into a prison wallet.

Re: A hacker's mom broke into a prison and the warden's computer

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post #3

These stories always make me wonder how many malicious infiltrations occur that are never discovered or reported? It could happen all the time, especially at places much less secure. It's certainly far riskier to infiltrate a prison (where all the guards have guns) than a corporate office.

Well in Georgia we have had a few reports from the prison system about what they confiscate from prisoners. [0]. Look at what they are finding just among the prisoners so imagine how much easier it is to smuggle into the staff areas anything you want. Nearly two thousand cell phones, four times that number in make shift weapons, and of course drugs. Cell phones are a particular problem because it has been shown that…

Is it wrong that I find it a terrible thing that people aren't allowed computers with internet or cellphones in prison?

How do we expect people to join back to society when they can't use literally the number one most important thing?

Maybe give them phones with no cameras and monitoring of use, but just nothing seems very inhumane.

Re: A hacker's mom broke into a prison and the warden's computer

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This is a great article, and one of the obvious but brilliant advice from the write up is : > Don’t blindly assume. I know I would be way more willing to allow a pleasant lady of mature mothering age and demeanor than a middle aged guy. Its the stereotypes we subconsciously build up unfortunately.

In the same vein: It’s not young thugs that come in to medical centers trying to score painkillers; it’s middle-aged suburban moms. The former know where to buy on the street. It’s the latter that think of trying to lie to their doc. But in practice we tend to be more suspicious of the former.

That reminds me of Allison (a super uptight soccer mom) in Orphan Black - But Alison had worked out how to find a supplier.

Re: A hacker's mom broke into a prison and the warden's computer

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These stories always make me wonder how many malicious infiltrations occur that are never discovered or reported? It could happen all the time, especially at places much less secure. It's certainly far riskier to infiltrate a prison (where all the guards have guns) than a corporate office.

Well in Georgia we have had a few reports from the prison system about what they confiscate from prisoners. [0]. Look at what they are finding just among the prisoners so imagine how much easier it is to smuggle into the staff areas anything you want. Nearly two thousand cell phones, four times that number in make shift weapons, and of course drugs. Cell phones are a particular problem because it has been shown that…

I understand wanting to surveil prisoners but denying them access to the outside world completely is wrong and a waste of everyone’s time.

Maybe require only open source software and no crypto except for authentication but confiscating phones is stupid and lazy.

Re: A hacker's mom broke into a prison and the warden's computer

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This is a great article, and one of the obvious but brilliant advice from the write up is : > Don’t blindly assume. I know I would be way more willing to allow a pleasant lady of mature mothering age and demeanor than a middle aged guy. Its the stereotypes we subconsciously build up unfortunately.

In the same vein: It’s not young thugs that come in to medical centers trying to score painkillers; it’s middle-aged suburban moms. The former know where to buy on the street. It’s the latter that think of trying to lie to their doc. But in practice we tend to be more suspicious of the former.

Young adults (age 18 to 25) are the worst offenders of prescription abuse, the largest increase in opioid abuse has been in rural America, and men are 140% as likely to die from opioid abuse.

So you have classified the greatest threat as female, suburban, and adult, but the statistics seem to indicate male, rural, and young adult. You are in danger of being pen tested.

Re: A hacker's mom broke into a prison and the warden's computer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well in Georgia we have had a few reports from the prison system about what they confiscate from prisoners. [0]. Look at what they are finding just among the prisoners so imagine how much easier it is to smuggle into the staff areas anything you want. Nearly two thousand cell phones, four times that number in make shift weapons, and of course drugs. Cell phones are a particular problem because it has been shown that…

There is such a demand for phones in prisons that there are companies that manufacturer "prison phones" that easily fit into a prison wallet.

Where do you find these?

Re: A hacker's mom broke into a prison and the warden's computer

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well in Georgia we have had a few reports from the prison system about what they confiscate from prisoners. [0]. Look at what they are finding just among the prisoners so imagine how much easier it is to smuggle into the staff areas anything you want. Nearly two thousand cell phones, four times that number in make shift weapons, and of course drugs. Cell phones are a particular problem because it has been shown that…

There is such a demand for phones in prisons that there are companies that manufacturer "prison phones" that easily fit into a prison wallet.

Does prison wallet mean what I think it means?

Re: A hacker's mom broke into a prison and the warden's computer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well in Georgia we have had a few reports from the prison system about what they confiscate from prisoners. [0]. Look at what they are finding just among the prisoners so imagine how much easier it is to smuggle into the staff areas anything you want. Nearly two thousand cell phones, four times that number in make shift weapons, and of course drugs. Cell phones are a particular problem because it has been shown that…

Is it wrong that I find it a terrible thing that people aren't allowed computers with internet or cellphones in prison? How do we expect people to join back to society when they can't use literally the number one most important thing? Maybe give them phones with no cameras and monitoring of use, but just nothing seems very inhumane.

There are prisons charging per minute for calls and e-readers. I really doubt they would be humane enough to allow that

Re: A hacker's mom broke into a prison and the warden's computer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well in Georgia we have had a few reports from the prison system about what they confiscate from prisoners. [0]. Look at what they are finding just among the prisoners so imagine how much easier it is to smuggle into the staff areas anything you want. Nearly two thousand cell phones, four times that number in make shift weapons, and of course drugs. Cell phones are a particular problem because it has been shown that…

I understand wanting to surveil prisoners but denying them access to the outside world completely is wrong and a waste of everyone’s time. Maybe require only open source software and no crypto except for authentication but confiscating phones is stupid and lazy.

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