Heathrow third runway plans ruled illegal: not consistent with Paris agreement
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Re: Heathrow third runway plans ruled illegal: not consistent with Paris agreement
#2On the margin, compared to the alternative, this will:
1. Make flights to and from, and connecting flights through, Heathrow more expensive.
2. Move more flights to other neighboring airports.
3. Reduce the volume of people flying to/from/through the Heathrow and the UK in general.
I am not sure how much of each effect is needed to absorb the change.
Re: Heathrow third runway plans ruled illegal: not consistent with Paris agreement
#3On the margin, compared to the alternative, this will: 1. Make flights to and from, and connecting flights through, Heathrow more expensive. 2. Move more flights to other neighboring airports. 3. Reduce the volume of people flying to/from/through the Heathrow and the UK in general. I am not sure how much of each effect is needed to absorb the change.
If you make things more expensive, less people will buy that thing. It will reduce emissions in the UK by reducing the airtraffic through the UK. Exactly the intended consequence.
Re: Heathrow third runway plans ruled illegal: not consistent with Paris agreement
#4On the margin, compared to the alternative, this will: 1. Make flights to and from, and connecting flights through, Heathrow more expensive. 2. Move more flights to other neighboring airports. 3. Reduce the volume of people flying to/from/through the Heathrow and the UK in general. I am not sure how much of each effect is needed to absorb the change.
If you make things more expensive, less people will buy that thing. It will reduce emissions in the UK by reducing the airtraffic through the UK. Exactly the intended consequence.
plus we can invest that money improving bus services and rail networks, which will help poorer people participate in the economy. If you can't get the bus to work, you probably don't need a plane to Dubai...
Re: Heathrow third runway plans ruled illegal: not consistent with Paris agreement
#5"Runways don't cause climate change; airplanes do."
I applaud the ingenuity of whomever managed to come up with and press home this argument but it feels like a stretch to me.
As someone who lives under the flight path of Heathrow I can't say I'll shed any tears if the third runway is permanently blocked by it though.
Re: Heathrow third runway plans ruled illegal: not consistent with Paris agreement
#6The title is a bit misleading. The court ruled that the government failed to take their climate change commitments into account in approving the third runway. They can go ahead with the third runway if they redo their approval taking climate change commitments into account (unlikely to happen as I understand the Prime Minister is against the third runway).
Re: Heathrow third runway plans ruled illegal: not consistent with Paris agreement
#7I live right next to Heathrow and am starting a micromobility company to tackle air pollution in this end of town, and hold an (albeit expired) PPL.
Air quality is bad here for humans on the ground due to the dilapidated 10 year old diesel buses that tfl allow in West London, and the vast amount of Single occupancy vehicles that commute to and from Heathrow every single day.
With the disaster that is Brexit on the horizon it's definitely not a good idea to scrap the expansion of LHR. I more than anyone want to clean up the environment in West London, but all things considered, it's not worth it to shoot ourselves in the foot and not expand Heathrow and a scrapping of the expansion is a hollow victory if all other issues impacting the West London environment are not addressed.
Cleaner buses, better incentives against SOV use, better alternatives to SOVs, steeper landing slope and other landing policies, properly maintained and seperated bike lanes, expedited and expanding plans for CS9, revised electric micromobility legislation (>500w & upto 20mph), more funding for local offsetting initiatives.
These make a difference for people on the ground, not not expanding Heathrow.
Edit: also right under the flight path. As most everyone else, got used to the noise.
Re: Heathrow third runway plans ruled illegal: not consistent with Paris agreement
#8On the margin, compared to the alternative, this will: 1. Make flights to and from, and connecting flights through, Heathrow more expensive. 2. Move more flights to other neighboring airports. 3. Reduce the volume of people flying to/from/through the Heathrow and the UK in general. I am not sure how much of each effect is needed to absorb the change.
All the way through the process I've struggled to understand who will benefit from Heathrow being a hub other than the airport itself. Especially now smaller airports have regular flights across the Atlantic and to other parts of the world.
Re: Heathrow third runway plans ruled illegal: not consistent with Paris agreement
#9On the margin, compared to the alternative, this will: 1. Make flights to and from, and connecting flights through, Heathrow more expensive. 2. Move more flights to other neighboring airports. 3. Reduce the volume of people flying to/from/through the Heathrow and the UK in general. I am not sure how much of each effect is needed to absorb the change.
If you make things more expensive, less people will buy that thing. It will reduce emissions in the UK by reducing the airtraffic through the UK. Exactly the intended consequence.
Yeah no. LHR has one of the highest airport tax, yet still is a leading world hub and annual pax numbers keep going up.
Re: Heathrow third runway plans ruled illegal: not consistent with Paris agreement
#10I live right next to Heathrow and am starting a micromobility company to tackle air pollution in this end of town, and hold an (albeit expired) PPL. Air quality is bad here for humans on the ground due to the dilapidated 10 year old diesel buses that tfl allow in West London, and the vast amount of Single occupancy vehicles that commute to and from Heathrow every single day. With the disaster that is Brexit on the ho…
You can clean up buses, trains, cars etc. It doesn't look like we will ever be able to make air travel carbon neutral.