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Re: Reddit CEO: TikTok Is ‘Fundamentally Parasitic’

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Post by jsjddbbwj »

kick wrote: post #16
theferalrobot wrote: post #8

I'll take TikToks 'parasitic' over Reddits toxic negativity any day of the week. Go look at the front page of Reddit, then look at what's trending on Tiktok... From my humble perspective tiktok is a pretty positive place. Reddit on the other hand seems to have been overrun with political fighting and cynicism about literally everything. It may not be popular among the tech crowd but for where I am in my life that is…

TikTok banned pro-LGBT content (until they were called out on it?), TikTok bans a bunch of things in countries that aren't illegal there (or in any civilized country, for that matter), TikTok bans criticism of certain political figures in some regions, so forth. Positive, but at what price? I don't like reddit, either, to be fair.

Look at what you're saying: tiktok simply bans all political content. Reddit is a cesspool of toxicity because of how everything is political content. Do you see the difference?

Re: Reddit CEO: TikTok Is ‘Fundamentally Parasitic’

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Post by threatofrain »

> “Because I look at that app as so fundamentally parasitic, that it’s always listening, the fingerprinting technology they use is truly terrifying, and I could not bring myself to install an app like that on my phone.”

> “I actively tell people, ‘Don’t install that spyware on your phone,'” he later added.

Does that mean Reddit doesn't track users? Or just that TikTok is extra good at it?

Re: Reddit CEO: TikTok Is ‘Fundamentally Parasitic’

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Post by m-p-3 »

russellbeattie wrote: post #9

Heh. This sounds like a business person that doesn't understand their competition, so they self-righteously trashed them as a way of avoiding the question. I mean, I sure as hell don't know the reason for TikTok's success, but I'm not the CEO of reddit. TikTok has a billion+ users, despite it's crappy reputation as surveillance-ware, so there must be something to learn from them.

I think it simply succeeded because of the void left by Vine's shutdown and because it doesn't belong to Facebook like Instagram.

Re: Reddit CEO: TikTok Is ‘Fundamentally Parasitic’

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Post by SlowRobotAhead »

defterGoose wrote: post #67
SlowRobotAhead wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but, if you aren’t breaking rules and they claim to be defenders of free speech you could at least expect them to play the part. I’ve seen some real shananagans at Reddit including the CEO stealth editing posts. Reddit acting as publisher is fine with me, they just still insist they are a neutral platform.

Lol. Huffman replacing his name with t_d mod names was a troll (a great one). It was isolated, not an example of a frequent occurrence. If you're upset that he was functionally able to do that, I'll refer you to my preceding comment.

I’m not involved in any of the Reddit communities... but... I can see past my own nose on this. It’s seems many people can’t.

Re: Reddit CEO: TikTok Is ‘Fundamentally Parasitic’

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Post by Polylactic_acid »

rapsey wrote: post #49
Polylactic_acid wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its ridiculous to suggest that lgbt content prevents fun videos. Also there is a lot of political content on HN. Its just shit flinging and random off topic rants that get removed.

They have a moderation formula and it works. Any social media platform requires it to succeed. That is the reality of today's internet. lgbt content is controversial in huge parts of the world.

Anti discrimination laws exist for a reason. It would be cheaper and easier for businesses to tell disabled customers to go away instead of building a ramp. A club might please its members more by banning black people.

But we had decided that this kind of action is a negative to society. Tech companies have just slipped around existing laws. Its time that the laws be updated to include web services. TikTok was also exposed to be shadow banning disabled users.

Re: Reddit CEO: TikTok Is ‘Fundamentally Parasitic’

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Post by kick »

jsjddbbwj wrote: post #71
kick wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TikTok banned pro-LGBT content (until they were called out on it?), TikTok bans a bunch of things in countries that aren't illegal there (or in any civilized country, for that matter), TikTok bans criticism of certain political figures in some regions, so forth. Positive, but at what price? I don't like reddit, either, to be fair.

Look at what you're saying: tiktok simply bans all political content. Reddit is a cesspool of toxicity because of how everything is political content. Do you see the difference?

TikTok doesn't ban all political content, and you're spreading misinformation.

Re: Reddit CEO: TikTok Is ‘Fundamentally Parasitic’

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Post by mijowi »

mschuster91 wrote: post #62
dingdongding wrote: post #2

How different is the tracking that TikTok does compared to what Facebook and Google does? Except may be TikTok might be shipping this data off to the Chinese?

Exactly this is the point. It's one thing to allow companies in your own country/influence sphere (NATO/western world) to build massive data piles about your citizens, but an entirely different thing to allow a national enemy (or at the very least, competitor) such as China to do the same. Given that there are many young soldiers, policemen, politicians or employees in security-critical environments it's not far fetc…

This app specifically is getting mobile phones banned in sensitive military areas/buildings.

Re: Reddit CEO: TikTok Is ‘Fundamentally Parasitic’

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Post by bassman9000 »

russellbeattie wrote: post #9

Heh. This sounds like a business person that doesn't understand their competition, so they self-righteously trashed them as a way of avoiding the question. I mean, I sure as hell don't know the reason for TikTok's success, but I'm not the CEO of reddit. TikTok has a billion+ users, despite it's crappy reputation as surveillance-ware, so there must be something to learn from them.

TikTok has a billion+ users, despite it's crappy reputation as surveillance-ware, so there must be something to learn from them.

How to do surveillance. Which is exactly the point he was trying to make.

Good for TikTok is good for the CCP. And it can be terrific at its job.

Re: Reddit CEO: TikTok Is ‘Fundamentally Parasitic’

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Post by foogazi »

pnako wrote: post #26

TikTok: get in trouble if you criticize the Chinese president Reddit: get in trouble if you praise the American president

in China TikTok will get in trouble with the government if the president of China is criticized

Do you think Reddit gets in trouble with the US government if the president of the US is praised?

Re: Reddit CEO: TikTok Is ‘Fundamentally Parasitic’

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Post by angryasian »

mschuster91 wrote: post #62
dingdongding wrote: post #2

How different is the tracking that TikTok does compared to what Facebook and Google does? Except may be TikTok might be shipping this data off to the Chinese?

Exactly this is the point. It's one thing to allow companies in your own country/influence sphere (NATO/western world) to build massive data piles about your citizens, but an entirely different thing to allow a national enemy (or at the very least, competitor) such as China to do the same. Given that there are many young soldiers, policemen, politicians or employees in security-critical environments it's not far fetc…

You mean like Facebook that was involved with Cambridge Analytica and still today allows hostile nations to interfere in our elections
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