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Reddit CEO: TikTok Is ‘Fundamentally Parasitic’

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Re: Reddit CEO: TikTok Is ‘Fundamentally Parasitic’

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Its ridiculous to suggest that lgbt content prevents fun videos. Also there is a lot of political content on HN. Its just shit flinging and random off topic rants that get removed.

The president was impeached, and there was no mention of it on HN. To say there is political content on HN is absurd.

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Re: Reddit CEO: TikTok Is ‘Fundamentally Parasitic’

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How different is the tracking that TikTok does compared to what Facebook and Google does? Except may be TikTok might be shipping this data off to the Chinese?

Exactly this is the point. It's one thing to allow companies in your own country/influence sphere (NATO/western world) to build massive data piles about your citizens, but an entirely different thing to allow a national enemy (or at the very least, competitor) such as China to do the same.

Given that there are many young soldiers, policemen, politicians or employees in security-critical environments it's not far fetched that a social media app such as tiktok which has cam/mic access is able to serve as a remote controlled bug for its owners. For what it's worth, ordinary tracking of location data is already an interesting data pile - a bunch of phones that for half a year only appear on a US military base and then suddenly appear somewhere remote in Afghanistan? Most likely they're deployed soldiers. Then look at what they post and suddenly you have names, ranks, specializations... and as said, all of that is possible with ordinary tracking, the dangers of an actual bug are magnitudes larger.

Re: Reddit CEO: TikTok Is ‘Fundamentally Parasitic’

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Its ridiculous to suggest that lgbt content prevents fun videos. Also there is a lot of political content on HN. Its just shit flinging and random off topic rants that get removed.

They have a moderation formula and it works. Any social media platform requires it to succeed. That is the reality of today's internet. lgbt content is controversial in huge parts of the world.

So are Jewish people/content, but surely you wouldn't suggest banning them would be "working" in any way but superficially: that's called racism. Banning people based on innate characteristics that do no harm is wrong, as most people agree.

Re: Reddit CEO: TikTok Is ‘Fundamentally Parasitic’

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Where are you seeing so much "toxic negativity" on Reddit? The homepage is pretty generic news content if you're not logged in, but the typical logged-in experience with any social network comes down to who and what you follow. EDIT: I'm curious what people are disagreeing with here. I'm in dozens of subreddits that are all great communities.

Do you spend much time on /r/all?

No. That's not a subreddit, it's just an index of trending content. Reddit even created r/popular to make a more filtered and generic version of r/all.

Re: Reddit CEO: TikTok Is ‘Fundamentally Parasitic’

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There’s no reason we can’t make different judgements about different types of speech. I’m fine with HN removing political posts likely to result in flame wars, but I would have a problem with them blanket removing posts about, say, JavaScript. Likewise, I’m fine with TikTok removing harassing content but not pro–LGBT+ content. These are not contradictory positions.

> I would have a problem with them blanket removing posts about, say, JavaScript. But even technical posts that reach the front page are sometimes removed. HN moderation policy is entirely vague and subject to the whims of moderators.

It's not entirely vague. Dupes are removed, flamebait is removed, incivility is removed, and pretty much everything is explained either by 'dang or by the Guidelines.

Re: Reddit CEO: TikTok Is ‘Fundamentally Parasitic’

#66

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Its ridiculous to suggest that lgbt content prevents fun videos. Also there is a lot of political content on HN. Its just shit flinging and random off topic rants that get removed.

The president was impeached, and there was no mention of it on HN. To say there is political content on HN is absurd.

Tech-adjacent politics is allowed, and given current politics it has been happening more frequently.

There isn't really a tech angle for the impeachment.

Re: Reddit CEO: TikTok Is ‘Fundamentally Parasitic’

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Well, you've just pointed out the problem with centralized social media platforms. Someone else owns them.

Yes, but, if you aren’t breaking rules and they claim to be defenders of free speech you could at least expect them to play the part. I’ve seen some real shananagans at Reddit including the CEO stealth editing posts. Reddit acting as publisher is fine with me, they just still insist they are a neutral platform.

Lol. Huffman replacing his name with t_d mod names was a troll (a great one). It was isolated, not an example of a frequent occurrence. If you're upset that he was functionally able to do that, I'll refer you to my preceding comment.

Re: Reddit CEO: TikTok Is ‘Fundamentally Parasitic’

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The president was impeached, and there was no mention of it on HN. To say there is political content on HN is absurd.

Tech-adjacent politics is allowed, and given current politics it has been happening more frequently. There isn't really a tech angle for the impeachment.

Not just tech-adjacent political content, but intellectually-stimulating political content, too.

Re: Reddit CEO: TikTok Is ‘Fundamentally Parasitic’

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Heh. This sounds like a business person that doesn't understand their competition, so they self-righteously trashed them as a way of avoiding the question. I mean, I sure as hell don't know the reason for TikTok's success, but I'm not the CEO of reddit. TikTok has a billion+ users, despite it's crappy reputation as surveillance-ware, so there must be something to learn from them.

Apropos competitors: Does anybody know reddit's stance on pinterest? Pinterest has become valuable with more or less the idea of 'reddit for pictures'. Why has reddit not made a move into pictures by themselves, apart from starting a picture hosting service?

Re: Reddit CEO: TikTok Is ‘Fundamentally Parasitic’

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Heh. This sounds like a business person that doesn't understand their competition, so they self-righteously trashed them as a way of avoiding the question. I mean, I sure as hell don't know the reason for TikTok's success, but I'm not the CEO of reddit. TikTok has a billion+ users, despite it's crappy reputation as surveillance-ware, so there must be something to learn from them.

> I sure as hell don't know the reason for TikTok's success I do. Simple service that came up with a massive user base to keep it propped up and focused around funny, cute, or stupid Vine replacement clips, then US kids flocked to it. Annoyingly; my favorite tiktok and comment about it were found on Reddit When I went to college to study TV and stuff, nobody, and I mean nobody, had any inkling that this was the futur…

Tiktok first blew up in China, but currently biggest in India.
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