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Oracle Reveals Funding of Dark Money Group Fighting Big Tech

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Re: Oracle Reveals Funding of Dark Money Group Fighting Big Tech

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Post by smitty1e »

"And that is called paying the Dane-geld;

But we've proved it again and again,

That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld

You never get rid of the Dane."

https://www.poetryloverspage.com/poets/kipling/dane_geld.htm...

Kipling may need a Warhol overhaul; it seems these days that everybody gets to be the monastery for 15 minutes just to see if they are well-architected.

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Post by soared »

This headline is not really genuine. The group is definitely fighting big tech, but purely for the benefit of Oracle. They aren't fighting for users, but simply against Google and Amazon, who are Oracle's biggest competitors.

Having worked at Oracle, the hatred for Google is very deep. We worked with G only when we had easy money to make, and they did the same. We would get in trouble for using any G product, and could only use G sheets/docs if a client had created it themselves and sent it to us.

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Post by NikolaeVarius »

soared wrote: post #4

This headline is not really genuine. The group is definitely fighting big tech, but purely for the benefit of Oracle. They aren't fighting for users, but simply against Google and Amazon, who are Oracle's biggest competitors. Having worked at Oracle, the hatred for Google is very deep. We worked with G only when we had easy money to make, and they did the same. We would get in trouble for using any G product, and cou…

Is the hate due to relative success? I suppose the API fight probably contributes but I dont think that alone could cause that much

Re: Oracle Reveals Funding of Dark Money Group Fighting Big Tech

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Post by longtimegoogler »

My opinion is that this type of "dark financing" is more common than many might suspect.

I believe this tactic, used by some tech companies to attack competitors, is fairly effective. I imagine it is mostly employed by those like Oracle that aren't winning in the market.

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Post by Apocryphon »

soared wrote: post #4

This headline is not really genuine. The group is definitely fighting big tech, but purely for the benefit of Oracle. They aren't fighting for users, but simply against Google and Amazon, who are Oracle's biggest competitors. Having worked at Oracle, the hatred for Google is very deep. We worked with G only when we had easy money to make, and they did the same. We would get in trouble for using any G product, and cou…

What alternatives did you use- Microsoft Office for those?

Now I'm imaging if Oracle had invested in creating as many competitors for Google products as possible, Samsung-style, even in markets that don't make sense.

Back in 2007, Sun had been working on an iPhone/iOS competitor named the jPhone. Imagine if Oracle had ended up continuing their work. Then there'd be two competing smartphone OS's powered by Java.

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q2.07/0ADA49EA-93A...

https://www.informationweek.com/call-it-the-jphone-sun-shows...

Re: Oracle Reveals Funding of Dark Money Group Fighting Big Tech

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Post by animalnewbie »

soared wrote: post #4

This headline is not really genuine. The group is definitely fighting big tech, but purely for the benefit of Oracle. They aren't fighting for users, but simply against Google and Amazon, who are Oracle's biggest competitors. Having worked at Oracle, the hatred for Google is very deep. We worked with G only when we had easy money to make, and they did the same. We would get in trouble for using any G product, and cou…

To be fair, using gsuite is only for hn hipsters. Anybody reasonable uses MS office. And please don't even tell me Google is open. There is no company on Earth which has more lockdown than Google.

When I was an intern at Microsoft in 2008 summers, they already had fully functional web based office which was a decade ahead of what was at Google at that time. Google is good only at pr and that's what they use their oss and surrounding efforts for

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