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Physical privacy vs virtual privacy are two very different things, so it's disingenuous to pretend they are exactly the same.

He tapes over his camera on his laptop because he doesn't trust it. I do too and don't think this is odd behavior. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jun/22/mark-zuck...

While I understand the rank hypocrisy here, tech billionaires have a slightly different risk calculation than your average Joe. For example, Jeff Bezos's iPhone was hacked by a nation state using zero day exploits of video playback, delivered via a person message from its head of state. People like Bezos and Zuckerberg are on the wrong end of James Mickens's "Mossad or not-Mossad" threat model and should be taking different precautions than the average person.

Re: ‘People You May Know’ helped Facebook grow exponentially

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> It’s almost certain that Facebook watches your email and sees whom you are contacting. Probably your calendar as well, to see whom you’re meeting with.

What? This is a pretty explosive accusation with very little direct support beyond "they've done things that this is similar to". How would they be able to do this for, say, Gmail and GCal users? I could see it being technically possible, but Google seems pretty likely to both frown on this and be capable of prevention.

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More likely adress book / phone contacts import.

The geo thing is really happening.

Which is one big reason why the only sensible way to use Facebook on mobile is to delete the app and use only a browser, while keeping your location sensors turned off.

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> A sex worker found Facebook recommending her clients, who did not know her true identity. A sperm donor got a suggestion for the biological child he never met. A psychiatrist learned that Facebook was recommending that some of her patients friend each other on the service. It is amazing how little pieces of information that are likely innocuous by themselves can be combined to develop a pretty thorough understandin…

I see those as BIG pieces of information! The number of people that I "might know" because we've exchanged email with the same person is horrifying in this context. There's a dystopic story to be written (which often means it already has been) about law enforcement using this second-order conntection as Reasonable Suspicion, a "why did we find your business card in this bad guy's wallet?" connection.

This is not a dystopian fantasy; it's exactly how intelligence agencies map out terrorist groups' and foreign militaries' structures online. Israel is supposedly particularly good at this kind of analysis, but I'm sure other countries are doing it.

Re: ‘People You May Know’ helped Facebook grow exponentially

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Physical privacy vs virtual privacy are two very different things, so it's disingenuous to pretend they are exactly the same.

He tapes over his camera on his laptop because he doesn't trust it. I do too and don't think this is odd behavior. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jun/22/mark-zuck...

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Re: ‘People You May Know’ helped Facebook grow exponentially

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In the early days, Facebook logged into user's email accounts and stole contact information without users' knowledge or authorization. This was possible because people used the same password for their email and Facebook, a practice common especially back in those days. This is one of their sources for PYMK. In fact Facebook has used this technique very recently too: A security researcher noticed the tech giant was pr…

We desperately need a Edward Snowden of Facebook to show up with treasure trove of docs at the steps of The Guardian. Surely, it is relatively safer than going up against the NSA? A $500B enterprise that's toying with the very social fabric that they claim to help build is beyond hypocritical and borderline cancerous.

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Re: ‘People You May Know’ helped Facebook grow exponentially

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I see those as BIG pieces of information! The number of people that I "might know" because we've exchanged email with the same person is horrifying in this context. There's a dystopic story to be written (which often means it already has been) about law enforcement using this second-order conntection as Reasonable Suspicion, a "why did we find your business card in this bad guy's wallet?" connection.

This is not a dystopian fantasy; it's exactly how intelligence agencies map out terrorist groups' and foreign militaries' structures online. Israel is supposedly particularly good at this kind of analysis, but I'm sure other countries are doing it.

And all the "males of fighting age"

Re: ‘People You May Know’ helped Facebook grow exponentially

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

He tapes over his camera on his laptop because he doesn't trust it. I do too and don't think this is odd behavior. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jun/22/mark-zuck...

While I understand the rank hypocrisy here, tech billionaires have a slightly different risk calculation than your average Joe. For example, Jeff Bezos's iPhone was hacked by a nation state using zero day exploits of video playback, delivered via a person message from its head of state. People like Bezos and Zuckerberg are on the wrong end of James Mickens's "Mossad or not-Mossad" threat model and should be taking di…

The people's whose weddings got bombed by drones, or who get thrown in jail for having the same skin color and being in the same city block as an alleged perpetrator, may see it differently from you.
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