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Re: Hard Startups

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right. Which is why government research is probably a better model for these world-changing basic technologies than Silicon Valley. Ugh, can you imagine how bad TCP/IP would have sucked if it had been developed by venture capital funding?

> Ugh, can you imagine how bad TCP/IP would have sucked if it had been developed by venture capital funding? It was. Several times. It was developed by a lot of large companies too. Nobody remember those, for obvious reasons, but people used to use them.

People like to forget. It helps pretend government research and alliances always produce the best outcomes.

Your example may be a bit too old. Even novell netware, token ring etc won't ring a bell to many people.

Try a simpler one instead: Do you guys remember about the various wireless standards before Wifi?

The Orinocos and the Intel 2011 PCMCIA were IIRC among the first ones of the 802.11b - quickly eclipsing everything else.

Also, what about DECT from about the same period? Some companies (mostly in Europe) tried to make an equivalent of Wifi, but using DECT modems. Some devices even made it to the market!

Re: Hard Startups

#42
> If you want to start a company working on a better way to build homes, gene editing, artificial general intelligence, a new education system, or carbon sequestration, you may actually be able to get it funded

One of those is not like the others.

Re: Hard Startups

#43

Before I started Submotion, I did a fairly thorough analysis of what kind of startup I wanted to create. I decided that I wanted to create something that - was B2B. Consumers are fickle, things can explode but they can also go out of style just as fast. It's more sexy and makes for better smalltalk but my assessment is that they are much more difficult to grow predictably. - targets SME's. I am somewhat extroverted f…

I like your thought process. Thanks for sharing, and good luck!

Re: Hard Startups

#44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Here at bleh we've developed a revolutionary method for transmitting your TCP/IP packets on-chain using AI to perform network level flow control."

The system would probably store all packets in a block chain and routing would be based on a machine learning system.

"Our router can route an astonishing 2,000 packets per second! No other router can offer you this sort of performance! Blockchain. Go ahead. Ask our competitors if they can match this. You'll find their jaw drops and that they'll tell you that this level of performance shouldn't even be possible on commodity hardware! Our experts hand-tuned the multi-billion parameter neural nets our product uses. The competition wouldn't even dream of putting neural nets of this scale into their routers. That's how far ahead we are on this. You can't get this sort of performance from anyone else in the business!"

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Re: Hard Startups

#45
What bothers me about Sam Altman's writing is the following:

1) He talks about X, X being an observation with survivorship bias painted all over it, but Sam Altman asserts as if it is true. Stop writing with authority over unsubstantiated claims - you can only be humble and say "Perhaps X is true because of my observations, take it with a grain salt".

2) Statements like "Easy startups are easy to start but hard to make successful." are fluffy with no real substance. I might as well read "How to become a millionaire" books.

3) Completely obvious observations: "Then talk about that big vision and work relentlessly towards it, but always have a reasonable next step." You might as well say "When you are embarking on a startup endeavor, make sure it is successful". I can't help but exclaim "No shit!".

IMO these articles and blog posts offer zero advice of substance. I despise them very much. There is nothing to learn from it, this is like grocery store aisle tabloid version of the Silicon Valley.

Re: Hard Startups

#46
post #7

The problem with startups building hard tech is it takes a long time to fail. Failures that take decades doesn't work in the startup model. Image working on a fusion reactor. It might take 25 years to fail. The failure may not be that your idea doesn't work, but because some other kind of reactor comes along that is a better business (ie, cheaper). At this point, you are now a world class expert at a technology that…

I would replace the "startup model" with "VC funded startup".

Re: Hard Startups

#47

This is an interesting perspective, but not one I found to be broadly shared by the dozens of VCs that I interacted with during fundraising. That we were doing a hard thing, despite having an experienced, capable, and "battle tested" founding team, as well as early revenue that was nothing to sneeze at, was very often a knock against us. Early on, it was kind of hard not to take this a bit personally, but that quickl…

Interesting thoughts. Since you apparently have significant experience raising VC funding, I'm curious about your opinion on the following (others, of course, are welcome to chime in). If you were working on a deep tech (science-based) startup and considered using venture capital, would you prefer pitching your idea(s) to VCs, who happen to have relevant domain expertise (most likely, as their educational background) due to potentially being enthusiastic about relevant domain and problems as well as having better understanding of an industry and having some (additional) connections or, on the contrary, avoid such VCs as potentially being "biased" and/or having less enthusiasm / belief in probability of solving relevant problems and, subsequently, the success of the venture? (For the purpose of this question, assume that the market need is validated.)

Re: Hard Startups

#48
post #9

It’s odd (read: motivated by self-interest) that he didn’t make any attempt to establish the failure rate of these startups and the distribution of outcomes for employees. Further, he didn’t even argue for a referendum on equity comp. He’s blatantly peddling the same broken model of “sell them your fugazzi so they can’t tell their talent is being plundered for (founder/investor) economic gain”. It’s downright insulti…

Is it really so crazy that people might care about more things than money when considering what to work on?

If I were given the opportunity to go back in time and work at Bell Labs or Xerox PARC, I would probably do so even if paid no money at all. This seems rational to me, both in terms of how much knowledge I could accumulate and just the self-actualization of working on such interesting problems. I imagine the calculation for early employees at start-ups is similar.

Re: Hard Startups

#49
I feel like the money quote was buried in the postscript.

> Another solution to this problem is to think about startups that can become quite successful with less than ten people. As compensation packages from the giant tech companies continue to increase, I suspect this will become a trend.

As cash comp at big public companies grow and the future value of startup options plummet, we need to start thinking about different ways to start businesses, and this feels like the right solution to me. Starting a company with 10 competent people that I enjoy being around and targeting $5-10mm in revenue sounds perfect. Maybe $10mm isn't reasonable, but even if we hit 1/4th of that amount, it's still plenty to support a small company.

Re: Hard Startups

#50

I feel like the money quote was buried in the postscript. > Another solution to this problem is to think about startups that can become quite successful with less than ten people. As compensation packages from the giant tech companies continue to increase, I suspect this will become a trend. As cash comp at big public companies grow and the future value of startup options plummet, we need to start thinking about diff…

That’s not exactly what he is aiming for; the quote is most likely related to Instagram which reached a $1bn valuation with ~10 people. A lifestyle business is worthless to VC (and unsustainable if it decides to take VC money).
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