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Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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I don’t know why people are assuming we can create a vaccine. There’s no vaccine for any other corona virus.

Human coronaviruses are usually just common cold, so there was no need to make them before.

There was once a vaccine for the common cold. However it only covered a couple of the 300+ different common colds and so it made no statistical difference.

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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I've been checking for updates on the virus several times a day since it first started being reported in Western media around Jan 20 (in part because it's been a fun distraction, in part because I have friends in Wuhan). I like to think I'm generally an optimist, but I think it's been clear for several weeks now that this is going to have a significant worldwide impact. There are just too many factors in favor of unc…

A "fun distraction"? That's some of the most psycopathic shit I've seen on this site, ngl.

Indeed. Hopefully he didn't mean "fun distraction" in a positive way and was trying to convey it was interesting to watch develop. Especially considering he has friends in the area.

> in part because it's been a fun distraction, in part because I have friends in Wuhan

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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What's he supposed to do? He went out of his way to put it in the polite way for you. Unless you want to go into complete incomprehensibility, it's a "rock and a hard place" situation.

Personally, I'd prefer such comments not to be made in a euphemistic way and just speak plainly. If you have concerns (valid or not) with immigrants not following the native culture and social norms then say that.

Which method do you think is less likely to result in flags / bans on message boards these days?

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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I believe a lot more things should be cancelled because of coronavirus. The less we travel, the less it spreads.

Effectively the entire world is connected with flights and transport. A contagious virus can prolly wipe out most of humanity in a short period of time.

I’d say Airlines should give free refunds to people who don’t wish to vacation in this environment. It’s prolly wishful thinking though.

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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on a side note, i have a week of PTO booked in tokyo then a week in kyoto/osaka, leaving friday. do you think its safe to travel?

Personal anecdote as I've been in Niseko (flew in through Tokyo) for two weeks and people in the area don't seem all that concerned. All of the locals on the trains are wearing masks while foreigners don't seem to be. There is hand sanitizer literally everywhere (alcohol based) and we brought masks to be safe. I have noticed a high number of Chinese tourists in the Niseko region on vacation though and overheard some…

Things are changing quickly with Hokkaido now closing down all elementary and jr high schools https://www.nippon.com/en/news/yjj2020022600658/hokkaido-to-...

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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What's he supposed to do? He went out of his way to put it in the polite way for you. Unless you want to go into complete incomprehensibility, it's a "rock and a hard place" situation.

Personally, I'd prefer such comments not to be made in a euphemistic way and just speak plainly. If you have concerns (valid or not) with immigrants not following the native culture and social norms then say that.

Yeah, but that goes against the rules. In civilized conversation, your only choice is to use incomprehensible euphemisms. He did a really great job - there is no kind of dog-whistle or outright strange language ("the urban crowd"). Perhaps he could have wrote 'normal french', but that's honestly a minor gripe.

You really have no choice but to phrase yourself in a way that's only recognizable to the in-crowd. Even here, with the polite expression, he is catching flak.

Personally, I don't discuss politics in real life anymore. Risks are too great. Just the Internet, where on some forums (not this one), you can be honest about what you think.

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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on a side note, i have a week of PTO booked in tokyo then a week in kyoto/osaka, leaving friday. do you think its safe to travel?

No, the handling of the situation is worse than has been widely reported in the west. Japan is functionally doing nothing to contain it’s spread right now: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/opinion/coronavirus-japan... Japan has very poor rankings on press freedom, reporters are routinely fired for questioning the government, and Abe has a long history of being a dishonest, self-serving, authoritarian. https://www.l…

Yup.. because the games must go on!! /s

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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What would have to take place for you to stop thinking this virus is going to push the entire world over the edge and fully in to 1984? CDC and WHO are probably not perfect but saying they "utterly failed" because you're angry over not getting a free face mask is a bit disrespectful toward the many people their working their asses off in times like these.

To add to your point, if one is worried and wants a face mask, in the US, right now, they can make effective masks in a few minutes using some gauze (cheap and plentiful in pretty much any US pharmacy), tape, a stapler and a few ribbons. While this may not be beautiful and might be slightly less effective than a standard surgical mask, it should be good enough unless one is spending significant time inside with infec…

Surgical masks are three-layered with an outer layer that’s waterproof and an inner layer that stops microbes. Pretty sure your makeshift gauze mask would be largely useless at stopping anything.

(Source: Family member who worked in the operating theater for 30+ years.)

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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I've been checking for updates on the virus several times a day since it first started being reported in Western media around Jan 20 (in part because it's been a fun distraction, in part because I have friends in Wuhan). I like to think I'm generally an optimist, but I think it's been clear for several weeks now that this is going to have a significant worldwide impact. There are just too many factors in favor of unc…

The timeline on the BNO site is useful, but have you seen this site by Johns Hopkins Center for Systems Science and Engineering that is tracking the cases (confirmed, deaths, recovered)? > https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.h...

It is a nice site (and covid2019.app is similar) but it is not updated as quickly as BNO and BNO also provides links to the sources.

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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Do you really think it will be any different in the USA or Europe? Will the governments ban conventions? Close restaurants and bars? Shut down shopping malls? Or will instead, in the interest of "the economy" (ie, money) keep too light a hand on things. Basically I don't expect the west to be able to react to this any better if it gets big. Their populations are uncontrollable (for mostly good reason) but in this par…

Did it ever occur to you that if there is open / reliable information about the disease people might choose not to go out and/or engage in these conferences? The whole reason all of these cancellations are happening in the first place (MWC, etc) is because rational actors have decided (without government intervention and even with incomplete information) that the risks are too great. Honestly my main concern in the U…

> Honestly my main concern in the United States is the complete and utter panic that will be caused by something that is only marginally less dangerous than getting in one's car to go to work each morning.

If the fatality rate of COVID-19 is 2% as feared, that is dramatically more dangerous than getting in your car every morning.

The flu kills somewhere around 20-30k Americans every year. The common flu has a fatality rate of around .1%. So for something that is potentially 20 times as deadly, we're looking at hundreds of thousands of deaths. By contrast, car accidents only kill around 35k Americans per year.

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