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IOTA being shut off is the latest chapter in an absurdist history

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Re: IOTA being shut off is the latest chapter in an absurdist history

#31
Good riddance, I remember during the bull run my friend was talking about Iota. I was into mining at the time and looked up how to mine it. Read about the project and knew it was scam then, not sure how it survived until now.

Looking forward to the day where the shitcoins die off and there's only a handful of cryptos on exchanges/people talk about.

Re: IOTA being shut off is the latest chapter in an absurdist history

#32
This project is the gift that keeps on giving when it comes to hilarity and schadenfreude. Custom hash function? Bizarre obsession with trinary? Complete centralization in a space where decentralization is the point? Constant big announcements with no substance?

I love watching these guys and their supporters. It's like watching an internet cult in real time.

Re: IOTA being shut off is the latest chapter in an absurdist history

#33

It would be nice to read an attack on the technology rather than an article highlighting hater quotes on the feuding misogynist, ego-maniacal founders. Iota remains a speculative cryptocurrency. It does not rely on the technology before it and is not a copy-paste crypto like many that came out of the last boom cycle. I still think it is quite innovative. That said, it may eventually fail due to its poor implementatio…

The article does go into the flawed technology: the hilariously poorly thought out trits, the flawed internally developed hash, the centralized nature of the system, etc etc. IOTA is to technologically flawed that it's amazing that it's worth more than $0.

Re: IOTA being shut off is the latest chapter in an absurdist history

#35
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there some kind of binary backing https://blocksteam.info ? Information doesn't just appear on the internet.

Bitcoin is not one of the scams with no working software I was talking about. The information comes from a leveldb database you can download from peers after installing this client: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin

> "how do people know who has how many coins, for a coin which has reportedly never shipped a working binary"?

They have a MySQL type database that stores IOUs for the people who bought the ICO tokens. They promise to deliver the actual coins once they finish the software, which in many cases has never happened. Others are less egregious than this and have working binaries on a testnet--the future main network is promised to deliver the actual functionality. There are a few coins (Cardano, EOS) worth multiple billions that don't have a mainnet or a working wallet.

Re: IOTA being shut off is the latest chapter in an absurdist history

#36

It would be nice to read an attack on the technology rather than an article highlighting hater quotes on the feuding misogynist, ego-maniacal founders. Iota remains a speculative cryptocurrency. It does not rely on the technology before it and is not a copy-paste crypto like many that came out of the last boom cycle. I still think it is quite innovative. That said, it may eventually fail due to its poor implementatio…

The article does go into the flawed technology: the hilariously poorly thought out trits, the flawed internally developed hash, the centralized nature of the system, etc etc. IOTA is to technologically flawed that it's amazing that it's worth more than $0.

The trits are bizarre and introduce complexity but isn't necessarily a critical flaw. I don't see anything in the article about them. They rolled their own crypto, but later corrected it.

Indeed, it has had their centralized Coordinator with plans to decentralize. Is that a flaw? Maybe, but it's also a scaling issue.

The distributed proof of work is novel as well as the absence of centralized mining and transaction fees.

Re: IOTA being shut off is the latest chapter in an absurdist history

#37
post #15
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Almost every coin is implemented with straightforward, non-blinded accounting ("UTXO" model) such that everyone knows how many coins are associated with each public key. For example, this one belongs to Hal Finney (the creator of Bitcoin) and you trace the balance of and movement of coins transparently: https://blockstream.info/address/1BgoUL3Mf8vDSDU4jjpFARKBJ6z...

> Hal Finney (the creator of Bitcoin) To be clear, this isn't definitive, as he is one of many individuals suspected to be Satoshi Nakamoto.

I think it is fair to say he is "a" creator of Bitcoin given all the early work he did to make the project a success but there is no evidence that he is the inventor of Bitcoin, Satoshi Nakamoto.

As an unrelated side note it is worth reading his post from 2009 when we talks about having ALS: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/bshZiaLefDejvPKuS/dying-outs... I have a memory of discovering this essay on hn, but I can no longer find the discussion. Maybe I remembered it wrong.

Edit: I found it https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=867623

Re: IOTA being shut off is the latest chapter in an absurdist history

#38
post #7

Still waiting for a use case of blockchain outside cryptocurrency also.

The SAFE networks plans to use a Blockchain to create a fully decentralised internet storage solution seems like a reasonably good use case.

https://safenetforum.org/

Re: IOTA being shut off is the latest chapter in an absurdist history

#39

This project is the gift that keeps on giving when it comes to hilarity and schadenfreude. Custom hash function? Bizarre obsession with trinary? Complete centralization in a space where decentralization is the point? Constant big announcements with no substance? I love watching these guys and their supporters. It's like watching an internet cult in real time.

Reading the reddit is insane. It is one thing to see the creators and their bullshit and insane ideas and think "ok they are good at marketing, some people believed them, happens all the time". But it is reading the reddit that really puts you in contact with the chilling fear that comes from the sheer number of idiotic completely disconnected from reality people who flock around this project, who not only support the project itself but constantly contribute with various hairs-raising ideas one more insane than the next, and proudly show off their total disregard for objective technological landscape or any empirical logically sound reality in general.

Re: IOTA being shut off is the latest chapter in an absurdist history

#40

It would be nice to read an attack on the technology rather than an article highlighting hater quotes on the feuding misogynist, ego-maniacal founders. Iota remains a speculative cryptocurrency. It does not rely on the technology before it and is not a copy-paste crypto like many that came out of the last boom cycle. I still think it is quite innovative. That said, it may eventually fail due to its poor implementatio…

The article does go into the flawed technology: the hilariously poorly thought out trits, the flawed internally developed hash, the centralized nature of the system, etc etc. IOTA is to technologically flawed that it's amazing that it's worth more than $0.

Not just more than $0, it has been in the top 10 cryptos by market cap for most of its history :(.
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