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Secret doorway in UK Parliament leads to historical treasure trove

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When I was a young boy, I had fantasies of such secret doorways/passages/treasures being everywhere due to consumption of copious stories/comics involving such plots. When I did visit old ruins/temples etc, my searching eyes would be looking for that overlooked odd stone that was waiting for centuries just to be pushed so that it can reveal its ancient secrets. Reading this discovery of the secret doorway sort of gav…

Me and my friend once discovered one when we were kids.. Dunno what age we were, say 8.. We were exploring this abandoned country estate house that was near his house.. In a library there was one shelf that was still filled with books, turns they were fake books and the shelf was a door. It led to a stone staircase going down to a little underground chapel.. It was super creepy at the time.. Awesome experience tho. I still remember it obvs.

That house has since been done up and is a super posh hotel / golf course now. Now called 'Faithlegg house hotel'.

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My honest first question when I read this is: Isn't knowing about every single passage and doorway absolutely critical to security in a facility where high risk persons work? It seems absolutely crazy to me to think that, as a US comparison, they would let the President go anywhere that might have passages the Secret Service is unaware of.

> It seems absolutely crazy to me to think that, as a US comparison, they would let the President go anywhere that might have passages the Secret Service is unaware of.

Since the US President does occasionally visit the Palace of Westminster, we know the Secret Service demonstrably do allow him to go to such places.

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Most remarkable: "The bulb that still worked after 70 years" - "A light switch - probably installed in the 1950s - illuminated a large Osram bulb marked 'HM Government Property'."

Yes there is a lightbulb conspiracy among producers that deliberately and jointly shortened the life span of their products in order to ramp up sales.

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Most remarkable: "The bulb that still worked after 70 years" - "A light switch - probably installed in the 1950s - illuminated a large Osram bulb marked 'HM Government Property'."

Yes there is a lightbulb conspiracy among producers that deliberately and jointly shortened the life span of their products in order to ramp up sales.

There's some truth to the fact that lightbulbs don't last as long as they used to; but there's a lot to unpick here.

First: This bulb was not turned on, and a light-bulb in storage does not degrade, there's no oxidisation happening inside the bulb itself.

Second: heavy filaments consume more power to emit light, and a heavy filament is the requirement to have a long-lived bulb

Third: Even with a heavy filament, bulbs will dim in their light output with years of use. The longest running light bulb in the world (101 powered on years if I'm not mistaken) is less bright than a candle, although originally it was about as bright as a 40w bulb.

More information on that bulb: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centennial_Light

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When I was a young boy, I had fantasies of such secret doorways/passages/treasures being everywhere due to consumption of copious stories/comics involving such plots. When I did visit old ruins/temples etc, my searching eyes would be looking for that overlooked odd stone that was waiting for centuries just to be pushed so that it can reveal its ancient secrets. Reading this discovery of the secret doorway sort of gav…

Me and my friend once discovered one when we were kids.. Dunno what age we were, say 8.. We were exploring this abandoned country estate house that was near his house.. In a library there was one shelf that was still filled with books, turns they were fake books and the shelf was a door. It led to a stone staircase going down to a little underground chapel.. It was super creepy at the time.. Awesome experience tho. I…

I wonder why anyone would take such pains to hide an innocent chapel.

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Yes there is a lightbulb conspiracy among producers that deliberately and jointly shortened the life span of their products in order to ramp up sales.

There's some truth to the fact that lightbulbs don't last as long as they used to; but there's a lot to unpick here. First: This bulb was not turned on, and a light-bulb in storage does not degrade, there's no oxidisation happening inside the bulb itself. Second: heavy filaments consume more power to emit light, and a heavy filament is the requirement to have a long-lived bulb Third: Even with a heavy filament, bulbs…

> and a light-bulb in storage does not degrade

Depends on the quality of the seal and how well it was evacuated. Older bulbs tend to be higher quality, thicker glass, much more material around the seal (the spot where the wires cross through from inside the bulb to outside).

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Me and my friend once discovered one when we were kids.. Dunno what age we were, say 8.. We were exploring this abandoned country estate house that was near his house.. In a library there was one shelf that was still filled with books, turns they were fake books and the shelf was a door. It led to a stone staircase going down to a little underground chapel.. It was super creepy at the time.. Awesome experience tho. I…

I wonder why anyone would take such pains to hide an innocent chapel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clandestine_church

Hidden chapels are fairly common in Europe during the Reformation when one could not be a practicing Catholic in a Protestant country and vice versa.

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Me and my friend once discovered one when we were kids.. Dunno what age we were, say 8.. We were exploring this abandoned country estate house that was near his house.. In a library there was one shelf that was still filled with books, turns they were fake books and the shelf was a door. It led to a stone staircase going down to a little underground chapel.. It was super creepy at the time.. Awesome experience tho. I…

I wonder why anyone would take such pains to hide an innocent chapel.

If it was in the UK, there was a period of time when the monarch was Catholic and burned Protestants at the stake and then the monarch changed and then the Catholics started getting burned. People of the "wrong" religion would have to practice in secret.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priest_hole

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Me and my friend once discovered one when we were kids.. Dunno what age we were, say 8.. We were exploring this abandoned country estate house that was near his house.. In a library there was one shelf that was still filled with books, turns they were fake books and the shelf was a door. It led to a stone staircase going down to a little underground chapel.. It was super creepy at the time.. Awesome experience tho. I…

I wonder why anyone would take such pains to hide an innocent chapel.

If this was in England it may of been an extended priest hole to hide Catholic Priests after the reformation. If there was an entire chapel hidden away it may of been for said priest to conduct mass for the Catholic household in secret.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priest_hole

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