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Google is moving EU citizens’ data to US?

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Re: Google is moving EU citizens’ data to US?

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Post by LazarKrit »

andreagrandi wrote: post #72

Note: if anyone thinks I should at least re-phrase the title and the article, I'm more than happy to do that. My concern is: why do they mention UK leaving EU if I'm not UK citizen? And why there is no way to appeal/complain directly with them? Mistakes can happen from anyone, but if they don't let me contact them I have no way of fixing this.

I believe this is because GDPR rules apply regardless of nationality. I believe the law is location based (e.g. if you are a non UK/EU citizen but operate in the UK/EU, you'll have the law affect you. But if you were and EU citizen in say, South America, GDPR does not matter to you.

(happy to dig up some legal documents by Allen and Overy a well-known law firm if people want to read an analysis).

Re: Google is moving EU citizens’ data to US?

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Post by frollo »

asdfasgasdgasdg wrote: post #130
andreagrandi wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean "search history turned off"? I'm not sure I understand. Also, I'm not a UI/UX expert, but Google suite has "Account Settings" where I would have expected to be able to see/change my address, but the option is not there. I use a limited subset of Google products (GMail, Calendar, Youtube, Google Docs, Maps etc...) but the possibility of changing the address was in the only product I haven't used since…

There is a toggle to control whether Google keeps track of your search history. I suppose there's a separate toggle for location history. If you have those turned off, Google does not record that data, and there would be no way for them to derive your location even in theory.

Even if you keep track of location history, Google can get it wrong anyway (I know, because I gave up the idea of having my home address in Google Maps a year ago - it doesn't seem to learn that I've moved out, even after updating my address in Google Pay).

Re: Google is moving EU citizens’ data to US?

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Post by rupert1234 »

OnlineGladiator wrote: post #19
rupert1234 wrote: post #4

It's difficult. You are pretending they are deliberately doing it. No one at Google wants to move your data to the US.

> You are pretending they are deliberately doing it. Are you saying they're doing it by accident? Even if so, that means they're negligently handling the data. And if not, they're purposefully disobeying the law.

Yes, I'm saying they are doing it accidentally, and that the specifics of the scenario will undoubtably be more complex than it seems on the surface.Every company is breaking some law somewhere. The legal environment is extremely complex. Google products are extremely complex. It's not some awful thing when they make an understandable, minor mistake.

Re: Google is moving EU citizens’ data to US?

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Post by rupert1234 »

wereHamster wrote: post #6
rupert1234 wrote: post #4

It's difficult. You are pretending they are deliberately doing it. No one at Google wants to move your data to the US.

> It's difficult. Please elaborate. What is difficult? And why is it difficult?

It's difficult to know for sure where to store data in a GDPR world. People move. People have multiple citizenships. People open accounts in countries where they aren't citizens. People give up citizenships. People share documents with other people. People ingest data from one product to another. People comment on documents. It's really, really hard to get all of this down. It's not even clear legally what to do in various scenarios and it's impossible to enumerate them all. It's difficult.

Re: Google is moving EU citizens’ data to US?

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Post by asdfasgasdgasdg »

frollo wrote: post #132
asdfasgasdgasdg wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a toggle to control whether Google keeps track of your search history. I suppose there's a separate toggle for location history. If you have those turned off, Google does not record that data, and there would be no way for them to derive your location even in theory.

Even if you keep track of location history, Google can get it wrong anyway (I know, because I gave up the idea of having my home address in Google Maps a year ago - it doesn't seem to learn that I've moved out, even after updating my address in Google Pay).

There is a separate setting for your home address in Google Maps. You have to update it there.

Re: Google is moving EU citizens’ data to US?

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Post by frollo »

asdfasgasdgasdg wrote: post #135
frollo wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if you keep track of location history, Google can get it wrong anyway (I know, because I gave up the idea of having my home address in Google Maps a year ago - it doesn't seem to learn that I've moved out, even after updating my address in Google Pay).

There is a separate setting for your home address in Google Maps. You have to update it there.

I did, but it keeps reverting back to what it thinks it learned from my driving habits. Somehow, it doesn't seem to realize that I leave every morning from the same address and get back to it every evening.
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