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Post by GarrisonPrime »

nabla9 wrote: post #538

Coronavirus will burn itself out in May when temperatures rise. Just like common flu virus, increasing sunlight and humidity will stop the spread of the virus during summer. Source: professor John Nicholls a clinical professor in pathology at the University of Hong Kong and expert on coronaviruses had a conference call where he explained most likely outcome. transcript here: https://www.fwdeveryone.com/t/puzmZFQGRTii…

That’s not soon enough of a resolution to avoid affecting the games, I’m afraid.

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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Post by bognition »

nabla9 wrote: post #538

Coronavirus will burn itself out in May when temperatures rise. Just like common flu virus, increasing sunlight and humidity will stop the spread of the virus during summer. Source: professor John Nicholls a clinical professor in pathology at the University of Hong Kong and expert on coronaviruses had a conference call where he explained most likely outcome. transcript here: https://www.fwdeveryone.com/t/puzmZFQGRTii…

Yeah its pretty wild to compare the rates of infection and mortality inside main land china with the rest of the world. The high infection/death rates aren't showing up in the rest of the world. The interesting follow question is why?

It could be a number of things, my guess is a sampling issue. Given how secretive the Chinese govt is we'll likely never know.

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Post by bootloop »

agumonkey wrote: post #524
dpflan wrote: post #484

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The timeline on the BNO site is useful, but have you seen this site by Johns Hopkins Center for Systems Science and Engineering that is tracking the cases (confirmed, deaths, recovered)? > https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.h...

do you know an alternate graph source ? this site has had regular issues recently

WHO publishes situation reports daily, you can check numbers there:

Latest report (25 February 2020): https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situati...

All: https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2...

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Post by every »

I will be working our precinct polls on Super Tuesday. I will try to practice the common preventatives for exposure. Wash or use wipes regularly (no need for anti-bacterial). Make a conscious effort not touch your eyes, nose or mouth with your hands until you have washed. Insist anyone coughing or sneezing cover their mouth (offer them a tissue). I've had my flu vaccine in preparation but of course that is worthless against this new strain. I'll do my civic duty on Tuesday as promised, but if things continue to degrade, there is no way in hell I'm working November. I'm in the "elderly" high risk group and not feeling especially lucky...

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Post by eirini1 »

bitreality wrote: post #332
littlestymaar wrote: post #313

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Do you really think it will be any different in the USA or Europe? Will the governments ban conventions? Close restaurants and bars? Shut down shopping malls? Look at Italy right now. > Or will instead, in the interest of "the economy" (ie, money) keep too light a hand on things. Sure, but this has nothing to do with authoritarian states vs democracy. You'll find a ton of authoritarian states doing exactly the same…

Here's the thing with Italy. They're the first Western country to get a major outbreak. They're being told to do things and assuming that it will stop the virus. But the truth is, containment does not actually stop the virus. It simply slows it. When or if this hits the US or elsewhere in Europe, and it becomes obvious that despite the quarantine in Italy, the virus still continued to spread, they will question the m…

>In China when the government tells its citizens to do something, they just do it. They don't ask why. They don't deliberate on whether it's the correct choice. They simply follow the directions. In the West, everything is up for debate. People don't like to be told what to do.

this is immensely racist btw

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Post by 34679 »

bad_user wrote: post #320
jmnicolas wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Which is strange since the twitter authors are clearly well educated virologists/epidemiologists. So when educated virologists/epidemiologists put alarming titles you find it strange, not concerning or alarming ?

Internet is full of quacks. Alarming titles indicate quacks more than they indicate actual crisis and we don't have time to check the credentials and the work of the people involved to assess their credibility. Also facts speak for themselves, you don't need alarmism unless you have something to sell. Also in these instances a general panic can do much more harm than the virus can ever do — we already see fears of an…

There are two morals to the story "The Boy Who Cried Wolf".

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Post by tremon »

iso1210 wrote: post #362
djmips wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many people do you know with malaria? It's a tropical region disease. In a pandemic of Covid-19, it is going to affect people all over the world in every region.

> It's a tropical region disease Europe and the U.S. used to have Malaria. The name -- bad air -- is Latin, the Romans thought it originated from bad swamp air. Shakespeare mentioned it time and time again in his plays.

the Romans thought it originated from bad swamp air

...which actually isn't that far-fetched for a pre-medical society to conclude, given that mosquitoes breed in warm, still waters.

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Post by mobilefriendly »

bognition wrote: post #542
nabla9 wrote: post #538

Coronavirus will burn itself out in May when temperatures rise. Just like common flu virus, increasing sunlight and humidity will stop the spread of the virus during summer. Source: professor John Nicholls a clinical professor in pathology at the University of Hong Kong and expert on coronaviruses had a conference call where he explained most likely outcome. transcript here: https://www.fwdeveryone.com/t/puzmZFQGRTii…

Yeah its pretty wild to compare the rates of infection and mortality inside main land china with the rest of the world. The high infection/death rates aren't showing up in the rest of the world. The interesting follow question is why? It could be a number of things, my guess is a sampling issue. Given how secretive the Chinese govt is we'll likely never know.

The mortality rate in Italy is roughly the same as China. I think it is too early to make this claim. https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.h...?

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Post by innocenat »

bognition wrote: post #542
nabla9 wrote: post #538

Coronavirus will burn itself out in May when temperatures rise. Just like common flu virus, increasing sunlight and humidity will stop the spread of the virus during summer. Source: professor John Nicholls a clinical professor in pathology at the University of Hong Kong and expert on coronaviruses had a conference call where he explained most likely outcome. transcript here: https://www.fwdeveryone.com/t/puzmZFQGRTii…

Yeah its pretty wild to compare the rates of infection and mortality inside main land china with the rest of the world. The high infection/death rates aren't showing up in the rest of the world. The interesting follow question is why? It could be a number of things, my guess is a sampling issue. Given how secretive the Chinese govt is we'll likely never know.

It's because 14 days incubation time. It will take 14 days until number start to pick up from the initial infection in new area.

It also depends if there is a space available hospital --- overflown hospitals (as in Wuhan) will make numbers grow much quicker.

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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Post by aazaa »

This same tough decision-making process will play out thousands of times in the next few months.

Any event that draws an international crowd poses an elevated risk. You can't know where people have been or what kind of screening process has been applied. If you're planning on attending a tech conference with an international crowd, now is the time to reconsider.

The possibility of asymptomatic transmission through casual contact poses unprecedented challenges. As does the low number of cases on which to draw information from outside of China.

The problem right now is the extremely poor quality on the information around the disease. Maybe this thing will behave like other infections and "burn itself out" as summer in the northern hemisphere approaches. Maybe it won't. There's quite literally no way to know.

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