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Post by dagenix »

refurb wrote: post #167
dagenix wrote: post #45

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> It takes work to produce human knowledge. Writing a book, creating educational materials, and writing research all takes time, just like it takes time to build a house. My understanding is that most / all articles in academic journals are written by researchers who are not paid by the journal. Then, the articles are peer reviewed by another set of researchers - who are also not paid by the journal. Then, those same…

Look up Chesterson’s Fence. It’s always a good idea to figure out why the fence exists before tearing it down. Researchers who publish in these journals can publish anywhere, but they choose to publish in these for-profit journals. Do you know why?

I'm a big fan of the Chesterson's Fence idea - maybe not applied slavishly, but as a general principle. And I have no idea where the journals came from. Nor do I have a suggestion for what to do about them. What I would be interested in reading about is any type of value that they bring to the process other than a name that was established long ago. I have yet to find much in the way that explains their current value for advancing academic knowledge.

Re: Where Sci-Hub Is

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dagenix wrote: post #181
refurb wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look up Chesterson’s Fence. It’s always a good idea to figure out why the fence exists before tearing it down. Researchers who publish in these journals can publish anywhere, but they choose to publish in these for-profit journals. Do you know why?

I'm a big fan of the Chesterson's Fence idea - maybe not applied slavishly, but as a general principle. And I have no idea where the journals came from. Nor do I have a suggestion for what to do about them. What I would be interested in reading about is any type of value that they bring to the process other than a name that was established long ago. I have yet to find much in the way that explains their current value…

Their value is very similar to that offered by Ivy League schools - prestige. The journals have the reputation for only publishing the highest quality, high impact papers. They act a filter.

Getting a paper in Nature will help you get tenure or win you that grant you need. Publishing in a no name journal is barely better than not publishing at all.

Because these journals are so prestigious, they can charge a lot for access. Every top school will buy access because it would be embarrassing if they didn't.

There is nothing stopping researchers from publishing in their favorite open access journal. In fact, they'd probably have a better chance of getting it published. However, they don't want to - those journals aren't prestigious enough. And without enough prestigious papers, they'll never make tenure.

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Post by sabas_ge »

Vinnl wrote: post #135

Hi all, I made this. I just received a notice from Zeit that they blocked it: > I am writing to let you know we have blocked your deployment: whereisscihub.now.sh > This is because the deployment contained illegal content. > Please let me know if this is not the case or if you have any questions. I hadn't noticed it was on Hacker News, but that explains the sudden attention. While I don't believe the site was illegal…

See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T243484

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Post by dionyziz »

czzr wrote: post #106
dionyziz wrote: post #100

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I'm a researcher. I write the articles in their books. They don't pay me for that. All of the articles are written by people like me. All of the articles are reviewed and edited by people like me. I even do the typesetting. I get paid by a tax-funded university. Publishers (such as Springer) use their money not to produce knowledge, but to sue people, market their conferences and journals, and pay their administrator…

Hmm... so you get nothing for it, you do all the work and yet you continue to do it? I presume you must be getting something out of the arrangement, else why on earth do you continue?

I'm a PhD student. To graduate, I need publications. The quality of my publications, and hence my possibility of graduation, is evaluated based on the reputation of the conferences I publish in. The same applies to a PhD graduate trying to get into a post-doc position, or a post-doc trying to get assistant professorship. For historical reasons, many of the reputable conferences are closed and ran by publishing houses that charge unfair money for them. We are trying to change that.
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