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Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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As someone tangentially attached to the sports community, the olympics is already a bit screwed up anyway, simply because the sports seasons (and thus the qualification pathway) for many events in the games have been significantly disrupted by the coronavirus. Many athletes who were in touching distance of qualifying will not be able to, and other athletes will be sent in their stead (if it happens at all) Olympic qu…

It is not your humble opinion. Sports are just entertainment nowadays. Lowest priority.

People don't really have their own opinions we are just collections of ideas picked up and regurgitated

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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I'm curious how other folks who work at large tech shops in the valley feel about working from home for a while. There is nearly zero reason for me to show up at work. I can do nearly everything from home, often better. At work, I'm in a large, open building surrounded by thousands of people. Am I overreacting? I know there's a good chance we're all going to get COVID-19, but if I can delay it a bit, I lessen the hit…

Happened yesterday in my company. :( Big tech company, 2000+ people, central Europe. First registered patient with COVID-19 in my country is from company I'm working for. We all received notice to work from home. It will be huge test now for remote work. I bet lot of people doesn't even know how to connect from home. (people from administration etc)

Which country are you from?

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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I’m in Tokyo and having a very different experience than you, nearly everyone on the trains are wearing masks and all customer facing staff I see now. Someone hit the emergency button on the train a few days ago because someone was coughing without one (there was a PSA asking people not to do that). It’s mostly foreigners I see walking around without masks now, but I agree it’s still ramping up. I honestly don’t see…

on a side note, i have a week of PTO booked in tokyo then a week in kyoto/osaka, leaving friday. do you think its safe to travel?

Personal anecdote as I've been in Niseko (flew in through Tokyo) for two weeks and people in the area don't seem all that concerned. All of the locals on the trains are wearing masks while foreigners don't seem to be. There is hand sanitizer literally everywhere (alcohol based) and we brought masks to be safe.

I have noticed a high number of Chinese tourists in the Niseko region on vacation though and overheard some families from Hong Kong talking about vacationing outside of China to avoid the virus. Not sure this is something to be that worried about - I'll leave it up to you.

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Are you a member of a group with higher risk for this like the elderly or immunocompromised? If so I would avoid it. On the other hand if you are young and fit and capable of following the standard precautions I don’t think you have too much to worry about. I say this as I’m about to depart from Thailand for Taiwan

young, fit, have global travel, health and emergency insurance and enough savings to immediately head to the airport if we needed too..

I think people forget whilst they are themselves fit and in a low-risk category, they will still get ill just probably not severely, and importantly will be a carrier to spread the virus to others. To near-family, children, nieces & nephew and grandparents, or just to more at-risk people they meet on the bus, cafe, office, hospital, etc.

Or indirectly to other fit people who eventually down the line infects a high-risk person.

So I think it is quite selfish to expose yourself unnecessarily. I don't think we should stop everything we do, life still goes on, but just be considerate of others.

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Look like things getting out of control, world need to assemble the core team which include world's top virology scientist, pharma company and top AI team and jointly discover the drug in faster way

and they open source they works on github or other plateform to invite others people to get involve to make thing on faster and best way

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Here's the thing with Italy. They're the first Western country to get a major outbreak. They're being told to do things and assuming that it will stop the virus. But the truth is, containment does not actually stop the virus. It simply slows it. When or if this hits the US or elsewhere in Europe, and it becomes obvious that despite the quarantine in Italy, the virus still continued to spread, they will question the m…

> In China when the government tells its citizens to do something, they just do it. They don't ask why. They don't deliberate on whether it's the correct choice. They simply follow the directions. In the West, everything is up for debate. People don't like to be told what to do. Sigh, this is so cliché… I don't know where you're from, but the “west” as the unified entity you describe doesn't exist. When it comes to a…

> When it comes to authority and how people comply

This is a different matter, people will comply for their own safety. If goverments or other agencies send the right message things could be okay imo.

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And while we're quite literally waiting for the vaccine to be created. The fewer people get infected the next month or two, the better.

I don’t know why people are assuming we can create a vaccine. There’s no vaccine for any other corona virus.

Due to lack of need. Creating vaccines for the common human strains of corrona virus would be spending a lot of effort to stop the common cold (possibly including a flu like seaaonal vaccine).

Work on SARS resulted in cadidate vaccines, but was abonded before human trials because of succsefull containment.

Work on MERS resulted in a vaccine that is currently showing succsess in humans.

Work on SARS-COVID-2 is starting from those, and already has canditate vaccines based on modifying ones we know showed signs of success against other corona virus.

Maybe this will turn out to be another HIV, where a virus proves ellusive, but I haven't seen anything to suggest that.

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> the economic consequences will be disastrous. I seriously doubt it will. Once the panic subdues, things will go back to pretty much normal. Flu kills a lot of people every year without serious effects on the worldwide economy. You'll need a mortality rate significantly higher to make a dent in global supply and demand. Of course panic is the key word here. If governments impose severe movement restrictions it could…

I know of 2 European car manufacturers that can't build certain cars because they don't have parts from China (Peugeot 208 and Fiat 500L). This is just a small example, but every industry is hit.

I think this is going to happen to a lot of manufacturers and industries in the West who are going to lose a lot of money in the short to medium term.

Looking further out, this and the general push back of the last few years with being so dependent on China, may be what further forces the West to start ensuring supply chains are not so dependent on China and the far East.

Companies may start seriously consider the true cost of doing business in China due to unknown events like this, and even more likely ones like military and economic confrontations occur (e.g. tariffs).

This might actually help juice the Western world for a few years as more manufacturing and supply lines are repatrioted.

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Do you really think it will be any different in the USA or Europe? Will the governments ban conventions? Close restaurants and bars? Shut down shopping malls? Or will instead, in the interest of "the economy" (ie, money) keep too light a hand on things. Basically I don't expect the west to be able to react to this any better if it gets big. Their populations are uncontrollable (for mostly good reason) but in this par…

The Milan fashion show was basically cancelled and whole cities in Italy have been cordoned off under the threat of military action if the quarantine isn't followed. >Will the governments ban conventions? Close restaurants and bars? Shut down shopping malls? So Yes.

I've had a dig around the BBC News website and despite Italy being the lead story, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-51638095, quarantine and control of population movement doesn't get any 'column inches' - all they do say is borders aren't closing.

I'd guess the UK government have told them not to report quarantine in order to keep the UK population calmer.

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