So the treasure is a light bulb? Pretty boring.
Any hoard of gold and jewels would have been pilfered by the politicians years ago.
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#12I guess these things get lost overtime if there is no system of documenting what happened and is happening with any building over a long period of time? A nice startup idea would be to create a system/website/app that documents what happens to any building over time including all maintenance and future plans! City councils have something like this but I imagine it is pretty simple and does not capture a lot.
I think that's what BIM systems are for: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Building_information_modeling
A startup that simplifies the process/visualisation and makes it accessible to whoever is going to use it will always win!
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think that's what BIM systems are for: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Building_information_modeling
A startup that simplifies the process/visualisation and makes it accessible to whoever is going to use it will always win!
> For some reason I feel like anything IBM does is overly complicated and over the top!
I think you've misread 'BIM' as 'IBM'. Building Information Modelling is a specific task for software, as the linked wiki page describes.
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
A startup that simplifies the process/visualisation and makes it accessible to whoever is going to use it will always win!
> For some reason I feel like anything IBM does is overly complicated and over the top! I think you've misread 'BIM' as 'IBM'. Building Information Modelling is a specific task for software, as the linked wiki page describes.
Yes I did! Sorry, edited the comment! Thanks
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#15I guess these things get lost overtime if there is no system of documenting what happened and is happening with any building over a long period of time? A nice startup idea would be to create a system/website/app that documents what happens to any building over time including all maintenance and future plans! City councils have something like this but I imagine it is pretty simple and does not capture a lot.
In some ways the app is easy. Capturing what happens is not, especially if there's no immediate incentive to do so. And writing an app in 2020 doesn't tell you want happened in 1660. Then you have to cope with app longevity; most apps deployed in 2020 will be dead by 2030 while the Houses of Parliament will still be there (unless they burn down due to ongoing fire code issues)
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#16I guess these things get lost overtime if there is no system of documenting what happened and is happening with any building over a long period of time? A nice startup idea would be to create a system/website/app that documents what happens to any building over time including all maintenance and future plans! City councils have something like this but I imagine it is pretty simple and does not capture a lot.
In some ways the app is easy. Capturing what happens is not, especially if there's no immediate incentive to do so. And writing an app in 2020 doesn't tell you want happened in 1660. Then you have to cope with app longevity; most apps deployed in 2020 will be dead by 2030 while the Houses of Parliament will still be there (unless they burn down due to ongoing fire code issues)
Hence having "system/website/app". The system is there to conserve everything and hopefully it will transcend technologies and be easy to migrate the data to whatever comes next.
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#17Orrrrrrrrrder! (While I go "inspect" the jewels.)
(Too bad, no more Bercow in the HoC; he'll have to say it in lecture halls from now on. :')
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
In some ways the app is easy. Capturing what happens is not, especially if there's no immediate incentive to do so. And writing an app in 2020 doesn't tell you want happened in 1660. Then you have to cope with app longevity; most apps deployed in 2020 will be dead by 2030 while the Houses of Parliament will still be there (unless they burn down due to ongoing fire code issues)
Hence having "system/website/app". The system is there to conserve everything and hopefully it will transcend technologies and be easy to migrate the data to whatever comes next.
We have legislation on vellum going back centuries; it's transcended technology and successfully been copied (I wouldn't say actually 'migrated') to other papers and the gov.uk website.
Which is why GP talks about incentive. What technology is your "system/website/app" going to use? Who's incentivised to update it? Who migrates to something else when you abandon it? How much does all this cost compared to non-digital records, which have almost certainly been kept, but some lost due to a lack of incentive to keep them up to date and safe?
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hence having "system/website/app". The system is there to conserve everything and hopefully it will transcend technologies and be easy to migrate the data to whatever comes next.
We have legislation on vellum going back centuries; it's transcended technology and successfully been copied (I wouldn't say actually 'migrated') to other papers and the gov.uk website. Which is why GP talks about incentive . What technology is your "system/website/app" going to use? Who's incentivised to update it? Who migrates to something else when you abandon it? How much does all this cost compared to non-digita…
Since 2016, UK laws have not been recorded on vellum anymore [0]
[0]: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/12149181/Thousand-year...
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#20British are known for building many escape routes e.g.
The road in 1942 as an evacuation route in preparation for a possible Japanese invasion of South India. With a maximum elevation of 2,480 meters (8,140 ft) just south of Vandaravu Peak, it was among the highest roads in India, south of the Himalayas, prior to its closure in 1990
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kodaikanal%E2%80%93Munnar_Road