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Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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Post by ta999999171 »

rococode wrote: post #46

I've been checking for updates on the virus several times a day since it first started being reported in Western media around Jan 20 (in part because it's been a fun distraction, in part because I have friends in Wuhan). I like to think I'm generally an optimist, but I think it's been clear for several weeks now that this is going to have a significant worldwide impact. There are just too many factors in favor of unc…

> it's been a fun distraction, in part because I have friends in Wuhan

Wonder if my friends are gonna die, what a blast!

Must be nice to be so cavalier...you must have a lot of friends.

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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Post by bamboozled »

xvilka wrote: post #131

Why not just postpone it for the same time next year? It's still possible and not a complete cancellation either.

I think it would be better to postpone it to a cooler time of the year also.

Not sure if you've visited Tokyo in summer, but it's a ridiculous time to be having it.

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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Post by scruple »

dis-sys wrote: post #129
Barrin92 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I'm curious how other folks who work at large tech shops in the valley feel about working from home for a while. Am in the UK and not the US but given that I'm healthy and relatively young I don't really see the point. This disease is scary in the aggregate, i.e it imposes huge economic costs. The average case of it is basically having flu symptoms, and I never stayed at home unless I got sick during bad flu seasons…

Multiple doctors in their late 20s or early 30s have died from the coronavirus. If you are under 18 and have good health, then you are pretty safe.

I've been trying to find mortality rates for the very young. Infants and toddlers. I haven't been finding much information. Is this being reported? Having twins under a year at home has somehow managed to become an even more stressful event...

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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Post by [deleted] »

nostromo wrote: post #122
rococode wrote: post #46

I've been checking for updates on the virus several times a day since it first started being reported in Western media around Jan 20 (in part because it's been a fun distraction, in part because I have friends in Wuhan). I like to think I'm generally an optimist, but I think it's been clear for several weeks now that this is going to have a significant worldwide impact. There are just too many factors in favor of unc…

It's worth reflecting on how many novel pandemics a 40 year old person has experienced in their lifetime. HIV, SARS, MERS, Ebola, Zika, COVID-19... For some reason it feels like a "only in the history books" event -- and yet it's actually quite common. The average-aged American (38) has lived through multiple epidemics -- including one that has killed 30 million people (HIV) -- and yet we barely talk about it.

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Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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Post by nicolas_t »

flukus wrote: post #31
TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does anyone know if ya can catch this thing twice? Or are we expecting it to mutate similar to cold n flu viruse?

AFAIK that's still to be determined due to the number of false positives/true negatives with the testing. Same with the incubation period. Edit - on the more worrying side of things this article ( https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/14-of-recovered-... ) was released today saying 14% of recovered patients Guangdong tested positive for the the virus. One of the more annoying things during this is that I have n…

Straits time is reliable. It's very close to the government and a bit of a mouthpiece of it but it's not a tabloid.

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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Post by efxz »

rococode wrote: post #46

I've been checking for updates on the virus several times a day since it first started being reported in Western media around Jan 20 (in part because it's been a fun distraction, in part because I have friends in Wuhan). I like to think I'm generally an optimist, but I think it's been clear for several weeks now that this is going to have a significant worldwide impact. There are just too many factors in favor of unc…

BNO? Last update they have is one week old...

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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Post by microcolonel »

rococode wrote: post #46

I've been checking for updates on the virus several times a day since it first started being reported in Western media around Jan 20 (in part because it's been a fun distraction, in part because I have friends in Wuhan). I like to think I'm generally an optimist, but I think it's been clear for several weeks now that this is going to have a significant worldwide impact. There are just too many factors in favor of unc…

I think the CCP did enough stupid things to balance out any benefit of swift and decisive action (taken way later than it should have been).

Part of the reason China has to weld people into their apartment buildings is that there is no trust, and no compliance in the society: every rule can be broken, even ones that should be obvious to any educated person.

The country's failed post-Mao culture, and worthless self-serving government organs, have conspired to make the infection dramatically more deadly than should have been necessary.

I think probably a lot of people will come away with the same impression that you did, but I think they'll be mistaken to think that China's authoritarianism has somehow saved them; after all, the government was sponsoring massive public shared-dish banquets in mid January within three km of the epicentre of the infection, televising crowds of people having religious experiences, wailing to the camera that they don't need masks, and that the government will take care of them.

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Post by dillondoyle »

adrr wrote: post #126
DrJaws wrote: post #35

It will be cancelled. Mathematic models made by epidemiologist experts from Harvard and prediction from John Hopkins guys are giving huge numbers between 40 and 70% world adult population will be infected in one year and numbers of deaths will be between 30 and 150 million if their predictions are correct and china didn't lie with the 2% death rate Read the threads from their twitters, the situation is much much wors…

Current antivirals work on it. Shown effective in animal models and now in human testing in China. A US based test, the patient made a recovery and showed significant improvement one day after dose. This is just antivirals that are already out there that being manufactured. There will be vaccines on the market in 6 to 9 months and antibody treatments shortly after.

Do you have research links? Or this is just internet enecdata? I have been contemplating calling in my Truvada script early and mailing a 30-60 pills to my parents but from my googling seems pointless. that Emtricitabine / Tenofovir most certainly wouldn't help? but I couldn't find much and have no idea

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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Post by nitwit005 »

rococode wrote: post #46

I've been checking for updates on the virus several times a day since it first started being reported in Western media around Jan 20 (in part because it's been a fun distraction, in part because I have friends in Wuhan). I like to think I'm generally an optimist, but I think it's been clear for several weeks now that this is going to have a significant worldwide impact. There are just too many factors in favor of unc…

While I appreciate the attempt, I have some suspicion that none of these quarantine efforts, China included, will look particularly effective when we look back on the event in a year or two.

I get the distinct feeling that many of these efforts are more about reassuring the public, than any real confidence that they can limit the spread.

Re: Tokyo Olympics “looking at a cancellation” if coronavirus not contained

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Post by sails »

rococode wrote: post #46

I've been checking for updates on the virus several times a day since it first started being reported in Western media around Jan 20 (in part because it's been a fun distraction, in part because I have friends in Wuhan). I like to think I'm generally an optimist, but I think it's been clear for several weeks now that this is going to have a significant worldwide impact. There are just too many factors in favor of unc…

Similar level of interest and tracking, and I thought the same about CCP and their ability to enforce order, but this [1] gives an interesting counter argument, with an interesting hypothesis [2] below:

> Tufekci argues that one of the second order effects of a surveillance society is that people act strategically to minimise the chance of punishment - and so their behaviour (and the data it generates) ceases to be a good guide for policy. If there’s a strong incentive to suppress bad news, you won’t hear bad news, even when you need to.

[1] How the Coronavirus Revealed Authoritarianism’s Fatal Flaw https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2020/02/coron...

[2]https://www.getrevue.co/profile/mattclifford/issues/tib-103-...

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