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Early riser or night owl? New study may help to explain the difference

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Post by avenger123 »

leto_ii wrote: post #179
avenger123 wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't have an elaborate setup as yours but I have found the most dramatic improvement by getting one of these: https://www.philips.ca/c-p/HF3670_60/smartsleep-connected-sl... It's a sunrise and sunset alarm clock. I wake up at 5:15 AM on a daily basis and 20 minutes before, the light starts with increasing brightness. At 5:08 AM, I have selected ocean waves for the sound and at 5:15 the loud alarm comes on. It's be…

I also have an older model of that. What I found however is that if my back is turned to it when it starts brightening up its effect is greatly diminished. It simply doesn't have enough power to brighten the whole room. Does the newer model mitigate this issue?

The lux level on this is 315 which I believe is the highest. For me, this hasn't been an issue as it is right beside my bed. At this point, I believe the ocean waves have become a signal to my brain that I need to start getting up. I did have to experiment with how many minutes before the alarm goes off to turn on the ocean waves sound.

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Post by balfirevic »

follower wrote: post #126

To interject some science into the anecdotes, if the timing of your sleep impacts your daily life (i.e. you may have a "sleep disorder") the following may be of interest: * General category of "Circadian rhythm sleep disorders": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circadian_rhythm_sleep_disorde... * "Night owl" a.k.a. "Delayed sleep phase disorder" (often related to teens & adults) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_s…

> Additionally, interactions between sleep disorders & ADHD/ADD mean that aids such as supplementary Melatonin need to be taken at different times and/or e.g. smaller doses.

Do you have more information or links about the interaction between ADHD and sleep phase disorders (specifically non 24-hour sleep-wake disorder), as it relates to melatonin?

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Post by randomdata »

dijit wrote: post #39

I've been a night owl my whole life, with the exception of that period during secondary school where I was so depressed in the evenings I went to bed early and as a consequence woke up super early. I have followed every advice, meditation (1yr), excercise (3*1.5hrs per week for 18 months), staving off screens after 18:00 (8mo), no caffiene, no sugar, no food of any kind, I also tried: too much food, cooling my body d…

> Based on the comments here, I just need to have a kid.

That did work quite well for me for the first year or so. Now with a two year old I’m back to staying up until the middle of the night and then being painfully tired when the child decides to wake me in the early morning.

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Post by engineerblaze »

I recently moved to a new apartment that has a window above my bed, that I keep open, so that natural light falls on me and gradually wakes me up such that I am fully awake by 8:30am whereas previously it was pretty dark in my room at all times and I had trouble getting out of bed at all. My guess is that the lighting situation before I moved messed up my circadian rhythms and made more more of a night person, but now that's changing?

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Post by LameRubberDucky »

dijit wrote: post #39

I've been a night owl my whole life, with the exception of that period during secondary school where I was so depressed in the evenings I went to bed early and as a consequence woke up super early. I have followed every advice, meditation (1yr), excercise (3*1.5hrs per week for 18 months), staving off screens after 18:00 (8mo), no caffiene, no sugar, no food of any kind, I also tried: too much food, cooling my body d…

Lifelong (51 years) night owl and morning hater. I got in trouble at work for being late and that was it for me. I have been getting up at 5:00 am for almost two years now. I don't leave for work until about 7:30 am. I do now enjoy the time in the morning before work and the desire to not miss that time has become extra motivation to get up in the morning.

At first I did go to sleep between 9:00 - 10:00 pm every night without fail. That seemed to help the transition. Now, I can stay up later if I want and "sleep-in" until 6:00 am.

No neat tricks or anything for me, just fear of losing my job and the disaster that would cause.

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Post by mosdave »

BuildTheRobots wrote: post #28

I like the fact they present it as an either/or choice. My natural sleep cycle seems to default to a 28 hour day (eg I go to bed slightly later every evening then morning) which makes interfacing with reality pretty difficult. This seems to be something shared with a number of geeks I know.

Yeah, I think I would do really well with a 36 hour day.

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Post by GuB-42 »

dijit wrote: post #39

I've been a night owl my whole life, with the exception of that period during secondary school where I was so depressed in the evenings I went to bed early and as a consequence woke up super early. I have followed every advice, meditation (1yr), excercise (3*1.5hrs per week for 18 months), staving off screens after 18:00 (8mo), no caffiene, no sugar, no food of any kind, I also tried: too much food, cooling my body d…

I don't understand how kids help.

Sure they will get you to wake up earlier. Even if the kids themselves are night owls, you don't decide when school starts. But it is not so different from any other obligation.

Waking up early is easy, you just need a loud enough alarm clock. Doing so without being in a constant state of jet lag is the hard part.

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Post by iso1631 »

GuB-42 wrote: post #198
dijit wrote: post #39

I've been a night owl my whole life, with the exception of that period during secondary school where I was so depressed in the evenings I went to bed early and as a consequence woke up super early. I have followed every advice, meditation (1yr), excercise (3*1.5hrs per week for 18 months), staving off screens after 18:00 (8mo), no caffiene, no sugar, no food of any kind, I also tried: too much food, cooling my body d…

I don't understand how kids help. Sure they will get you to wake up earlier. Even if the kids themselves are night owls, you don't decide when school starts. But it is not so different from any other obligation. Waking up early is easy, you just need a loud enough alarm clock. Doing so without being in a constant state of jet lag is the hard part.

Lots of international travel helps. If you're jetlagged from going to a different continent every week or so, when you're awake and asleep doesn't really factor into it.
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