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Google is moving EU citizens’ data to US?

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Re: Google is moving EU citizens’ data to US?

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I feel like people don't accept that Google needs the EU less than the EU needs Google. If Google were to pull out of the EU overnight, there'd be death as a result. If the EU were to kick Google out, there might still be deaths, but none of them Google employees, and in the end it wouldn't substantially impact Google. There's no real incentive for Google to be a good actor: they have all of the leverage, and if the…

Not sure I follow. You don't think the EU is a big market for Google?

Re: Google is moving EU citizens’ data to US?

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I feel like people don't accept that Google needs the EU less than the EU needs Google. If Google were to pull out of the EU overnight, there'd be death as a result. If the EU were to kick Google out, there might still be deaths, but none of them Google employees, and in the end it wouldn't substantially impact Google. There's no real incentive for Google to be a good actor: they have all of the leverage, and if the…

In which would way would you specifically think of "the EU needs Google"? Startups using Google Office? Google Mail?

(I've dropped Gmail and Office a year ago, but I might come back)

Re: Google is moving EU citizens’ data to US?

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How exactly is this illegal? AFAIK, it's not illegal (per GDPR) to process EU citizen data in data controllers if the individual is no longer in the EU. _Edit_: Yes, I read the article. It looks like this person got this email notification because they had activity in London (per their resume on their website). That doesn't make the email illegal nor does it mean their activity in Italy is going to be on a non-EU con…

Have you read the article? Entirely? If yes, can you please tell me since when ITALY is not part of EU? Thanks

Re: Google is moving EU citizens’ data to US?

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I feel like people don't accept that Google needs the EU less than the EU needs Google. If Google were to pull out of the EU overnight, there'd be death as a result. If the EU were to kick Google out, there might still be deaths, but none of them Google employees, and in the end it wouldn't substantially impact Google. There's no real incentive for Google to be a good actor: they have all of the leverage, and if the…

> If Google were to pull out of the EU overnight, there'd be death as a result

What? What kind of exaggeration is this? You think people died before Google existed or if you don't use Google? There are plenty of alternatives and even if not, how do you reach the conclusion that people will die if there is no Google in EU?

Also, I don't think either Google or the EU _need_ the other. Obviously EU has a incentive to consider it's citizens first while Google's incentive is to get as money for its shareholders as possible. If anything will happen, it would be that EU kicks out Google either by law or by enough fines so Google leaves.

Re: Google is moving EU citizens’ data to US?

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I feel like people don't accept that Google needs the EU less than the EU needs Google. If Google were to pull out of the EU overnight, there'd be death as a result. If the EU were to kick Google out, there might still be deaths, but none of them Google employees, and in the end it wouldn't substantially impact Google. There's no real incentive for Google to be a good actor: they have all of the leverage, and if the…

What percentage of Google's assets are in the EU because of their prior double-irish-dutch-sandwich scheme to evade US taxes?

Re: Google is moving EU citizens’ data to US?

#17

> I'm an Italian citizen, living in Italy [...] and I'm fully entitled to GDPR protection and to have my data owned by a European data controller. I don't think the latter part is true. AFAIK GDPR does not give you the right do have your data owned or processed by an EU entity. GDPR does not say that. It doesn't matter where your data is stored or processed, Google must still follow GDPR rules for data about EU resid…

I think it is the reverse, although I may have misunderstood your statement. GDPR applies to the entity controlling the data, not the resident. So Google LLC is subject to GDPR. Further, an EU citizen is entitled to use Google LLC and by providing services to an EU citizen, Google LLC has to abide by GDPR. So, my understanding is that Google may move an EU citizen's data to a US company as long as the US entity abides by GDPR.

Re: Google is moving EU citizens’ data to US?

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It's difficult. You are pretending they are deliberately doing it. No one at Google wants to move your data to the US.

> You are pretending they are deliberately doing it.

Are you saying they're doing it by accident? Even if so, that means they're negligently handling the data. And if not, they're purposefully disobeying the law.

Re: Google is moving EU citizens’ data to US?

#20

kinda clickbait [edit for clarity] Please cite where [your] data is now stored and how you found that information. Cause I'm US based and I got the same email! WTF Google?

And by that, I mean I got that same email. And I definitely live in the US. Please cite sources of them actually moving [your] data to Google LLC and or US.
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