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Re: China bans consumption and trade of wild animals

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Post by bad_user »

vraivroo wrote: post #40
bad_user wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In absence of a caloric surplus / chronic overfeeding, also known as energy poisoning , you have absolutely no proof for the claim. There isn't even an association, let alone causation. And it would be naive to think that eliminating added sugar and meat would prevent people from eating too much . Which actually beats dying of starvation, which is what people used to do ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ — comparing food with cigarettes or v…

It would be historically correct, though.

What do you mean by "historically correct"?

You mean blaming sugar or meat when historically people started eating too much, in the 20th century, due to food availability?

Re: China bans consumption and trade of wild animals

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Post by novaleaf »

edgefield0 wrote: post #30
mc32 wrote: post #26

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This very important. Both the PRC and USSR constitutions, on paper, arguably provide better freer basic law than that of the US but in practice it’s just words on paper. However, also in practice the faction in power gets to capriciously enforce what it wants selectively, usually to solidify standing. So mr Xi and mr Stalin (née Jughashvili) get to purge all want-to-be usurpers.

Not for long. The American Constitution is being eroded every day. We're becoming (arguably have become) a full fledged banana republic.

oh come on. At least give some anicdote to back your claim.

Re: China bans consumption and trade of wild animals

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Post by saber6 »

someperson wrote: post #24

I can't see how this can be successfully enforced without a massive education campaign and actual enforcement by authorities, including moving the so-called "wet markets" (which are outdoor butchers that are very important to the food supply chain in many areas of China) into modern indoor facilities for improved food safety. Older people in China (the so-called lost generation) are set in their ways: remember that i…

> remember that in traditional Chinese medicine, the medicinal value of an animal is directly proportional to its rarity.

What a stupid ass belief system.

Re: China bans consumption and trade of wild animals

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Post by stevespang »

So is this ban create a "diversion" for the PRC for all the rational suspicion that the virus really came from a bioweapons lab in Wuhan ?

Does this ban comprehensively cover ALL wild animals, tigers, elephants, shark fins, rhinos, pangolins - - - all those animals that mostly the Chinese are driving to extinction with their "witch doctor" beliefs consuming body parts of animals gives them strength or health ?

Re: China bans consumption and trade of wild animals

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Post by nathanaldensr »

vraivroo wrote: post #39
JakezRock wrote: post #35

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i have got to ask, i understand the sugar part, but the meat? Are you referring to the red meat or the fat in meat? Could you elaborate on the meat part?

Cholesterol, saturated fat, weight gain, etc. Meat is not a healthy food.

You know that dietary cholesterol has no relation to blood cholesterol levels, right? You know that the saturated fat myth--started by the sugar industry--was debunked, right?

Re: China bans consumption and trade of wild animals

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Post by gtfratteus »

vraivroo wrote: post #27
ben_w wrote: post #23

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No more so than expecting westerners to be scared out of all the dangerous things we do. Even to the extent that most of us don’t smoke or have lots of unprotected one night stands with strangers, there’s enough who do that they and their illnesses are still a major part of our health systems.

Eating of meat and sugar are responsible for much more. No need to vilify those whose vices you don't share.

Eating meat is not worse than smoking. What a ridiculous claim.

Re: China bans consumption and trade of wild animals

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Post by vraivroo »

nathanaldensr wrote: post #45
vraivroo wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cholesterol, saturated fat, weight gain, etc. Meat is not a healthy food.

You know that dietary cholesterol has no relation to blood cholesterol levels, right? You know that the saturated fat myth--started by the sugar industry--was debunked, right?

Wonder why meat eaters have so much higher cholesterol then. Must be a vast vegan conspiracy.

Re: China bans consumption and trade of wild animals

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Post by vraivroo »

bad_user wrote: post #41
vraivroo wrote: post #40

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It would be historically correct, though.

What do you mean by " historically correct "? You mean blaming sugar or meat when historically people started eating too much, in the 20th century, due to food availability?

The real evil came from the sugar and meat industries, who knew their products caused disease, but paid researchers to cover it up. You my friend are but another victim of their propaganda.

Re: China bans consumption and trade of wild animals

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Post by vezycash »

vraivroo wrote: post #40
bad_user wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In absence of a caloric surplus / chronic overfeeding, also known as energy poisoning , you have absolutely no proof for the claim. There isn't even an association, let alone causation. And it would be naive to think that eliminating added sugar and meat would prevent people from eating too much . Which actually beats dying of starvation, which is what people used to do ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ — comparing food with cigarettes or v…

It would be historically correct, though.

Everything has become more abundant recently - clean water, vegetable, meat, fat, sugar, even clean water.

And less hunger too. I remember yawning repeatedly / feeling faint when I was younger but didn't know what I hungry until my mum pointed it out.

So you can't point to one or two food groups and claim their current abundance cause obesity.

Well, except white sugar lol.

Re: China bans consumption and trade of wild animals

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Post by mdemare »

JakezRock wrote: post #35
vraivroo wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eating of meat and sugar are responsible for much more. No need to vilify those whose vices you don't share.

i have got to ask, i understand the sugar part, but the meat? Are you referring to the red meat or the fat in meat? Could you elaborate on the meat part?

It's not just that meat and sugar are unhealthy, but also that presence of meat and sugar correlate with absence of healthier foods, such as vegetables, legumes, seeds, fruits and nuts.
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