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Re: Google interviewing process for software developer role in 2020

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The scariest part about experiences like this is the time wasted and the time spent under tension. I normally can solve algorithmic puzzles pretty well without studying much, and I'd be pretty fine with a weekend of studying. But it sounds like a nightmare being strung along for months before being subjected to 5 rounds of 1 hour of being under scrutiny from another person.

it's the scrutiny part that is strange.

as human beings, we are expected to behave differently when others are watching us, than when we are alone e.g. why lock doors before changing dress, or why cover mouth when yawning, or why not swear in an office etc. Naturally, we don't speak everything we think, lest we air the dirty laundry.

Do you judge a building during construction ? Do you judge an author by his first drafts ?

Either judge the final product, or only judge the process, or only judge speed of execution. And if you want to judge all three, then leave the candidate alone and let them think in their underpants and smoke if that's what gets their brain juices flowing.

As it is, they want to judge your thought process, your final result, your speed, and your ability to perform when someone is standing over your shoulder. It's a bit silly, mainly because it's not representative of any real-life scenario. Candidates who are introverted (exactly the IT geek types they want to hire) would have a major anxiety issue with the scrutiny part of it.

Re: Google interviewing process for software developer role in 2020

#252

Every time this topic comes out, I can't help but think that the majority of comments show some degree of confirmation bias. What's missing from the conversation are the perspectives of those who had a positive interview experience... Without that, the conversation doesn't have quite so much education value.

There seems to be many Googlers here already.

Would have expected to ready atleast a couple good experiences from them(they were hired after all)

Re: Google interviewing process for software developer role in 2020

#253

Man what a stark contrast to how my Netflix interview went. I was contacted directly by the hiring manager, three days later I was onsite for the phase one interview, three days later I was onsite for the second phase, and I had a verbal offer on my way out the door (for more than I asked for). Came back a week later to sign the paperwork after I emailed with the recruiter a few times about offer details. Started a w…

May I ask: roughly what year was that?

I was hired in 2011 and did hiring through 2014, but from what I understand it's not much different now.

Re: Google interviewing process for software developer role in 2020

#254
I think it's sad that everyone is forced to jump through excessive hoops just to get a chance at getting a job.

All software engineers should join a collective industry wide union that agrees any coding assignments that take longer than 2 hours would bill the interviewing company 150$/hour (or whatever the rate is in that location). I think that would be fair.

It's a bad sign when a company doesn't respect you enough, to even look at your previous coding assignments.

Re: Google interviewing process for software developer role in 2020

#255

Man what a stark contrast to how my Netflix interview went. I was contacted directly by the hiring manager, three days later I was onsite for the phase one interview, three days later I was onsite for the second phase, and I had a verbal offer on my way out the door (for more than I asked for). Came back a week later to sign the paperwork after I emailed with the recruiter a few times about offer details. Started a w…

You are a fairly well known dev. That certainly opens doors.

Sure, but like I said, I wasn't an outlier in that respect. Everyone got the same treatment. It always started with a hiring manager reaching out directly.

Re: Google interviewing process for software developer role in 2020

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Alright, so Mountain View is waking up now and you'll get comments from Googlers, so here is mine. DISCLAIMERS: 1. I work for Google, but these opinions are mine. 2. Everyone at Google is expected to interview, but I no longer do, and have not for two or three years. I have a medical exemption because for anxiety. Trust me, I know just as much as any candidate how stressful it is to be in that room. 3. I interviewed…

it's the scrutiny part that is strange.

as human beings, we are expected to behave differently when others are watching us, than when we are alone e.g. why lock doors before changing dress, or why cover mouth when yawning, or why not swear in an office etc. Naturally, we don't speak everything we think, lest we air the dirty laundry.

Do you judge a building during construction ? Do you judge an author by his first drafts ?

Either judge the final product, or only judge the process, or only judge speed of execution. And if you want to judge all three, then leave the candidate alone and let them think in their underpants and smoke if that's what gets their brain juices flowing.

As it is, they want to judge your thought process, your final result, your speed, and your ability to perform when someone is standing over your shoulder. It's a bit silly, mainly because it's not representative of any real-life scenario. Candidates who are introverted (exactly the IT geek types they want to hire) would have a major anxiety issue with the scrutiny part of it.

Re: Google interviewing process for software developer role in 2020

#257

Man what a stark contrast to how my Netflix interview went. I was contacted directly by the hiring manager, three days later I was onsite for the phase one interview, three days later I was onsite for the second phase, and I had a verbal offer on my way out the door (for more than I asked for). Came back a week later to sign the paperwork after I emailed with the recruiter a few times about offer details. Started a w…

Netflix is known for being speedy with hiring because they are also speedy with firing under performers. So they see hiring as a relatively low risk proposition and will make decisions faster since the long term effects are greatly lessened.

This is absolutely true. It was just as easy to fire someone as it was to hire someone, so hiring was a lower risk activity.

But even so, most people did not get fired, contrary to popular belief. I don't remember the stats, but almost no one was fired within their first year for example.

Re: Google interviewing process for software developer role in 2020

#258

Man what a stark contrast to how my Netflix interview went. I was contacted directly by the hiring manager, three days later I was onsite for the phase one interview, three days later I was onsite for the second phase, and I had a verbal offer on my way out the door (for more than I asked for). Came back a week later to sign the paperwork after I emailed with the recruiter a few times about offer details. Started a w…

Netflix is known for being speedy with hiring because they are also speedy with firing under performers. So they see hiring as a relatively low risk proposition and will make decisions faster since the long term effects are greatly lessened.

At least they're making good use of California being an at-will state.

Re: Google interviewing process for software developer role in 2020

#259

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You are a fairly well known dev. That certainly opens doors.

Sure, but like I said, I wasn't an outlier in that respect. Everyone got the same treatment. It always started with a hiring manager reaching out directly.

> Everyone got the same treatment.

Even those living 500+ miles away?

Re: Google interviewing process for software developer role in 2020

#260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> People in California. The only way you'll end up with a tax bill that large is if you contribute $0 to tax-advantaged retirement accounts. And that's taking into account state taxes, SSI/Medicare. You don't have to believe me, try it out yourself. https://smartasset.com/taxes/california-tax-calculator . Putting in $300k of income for a single person, it gave me $175k take-home pay + $19k in a 401k, which is an effe…

$45k/year is an absurd estimate of expenses especially in silicon valley.

I think my overall expenses are less than that and I spend an exorbitant sum on food (almost as much as I spend on rent). I just don't have crazy expensive hobbies.

There are people I know who live in the bay area on less than 45K/yr in wages, so no its not at all absurd.

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