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Re: On Voice Coding

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Post by rijoja »

lunixbochs wrote: post #57
rijoja wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From my research on alternative keyboard research ( http://tbf-rnd.life ) I've come into contact with the author of (and managed to piss of) the author of talon. Seems like a competent solution, even though I haven't been able to dig that deep into it on account of not being a mac user (until know)... There'd be some back and forth regarding it's suitability for coding over there. Much better support than I expected…

Hi, I believe you are referring to this [1]. I wasn’t feeling pissed. I was critical of your dismissive tone, as I felt your post was possibly harmful to people who may be looking for solutions. You had said something along the lines of “voice coding can’t work well because Siri doesn’t recognize code” which is a surprising conclusion from a flawed premise. As a generalization, you seem to be coming up with reasons y…

I would like to apologise for that. You really made me think and know that I've become a mac user I have the opportunity to try your solution out. The blog post was intended in a rather light tone. My intention was to add the more in depth analysis in the book.

Now that I am a mac user I finally have the chance to take a look at your solution. I do think that I have a lot to learn and do not think that the areas of research are in conflict at all.

All the best and good luck!

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Post by pjc50 »

ijidak wrote: post #4

FYI, I thought my programming career was over due to RSI. Now, I only type while wearing long-sleeves. And of course, I still have to take regular breaks. I no longer suffer RSI symptoms. I'm guessing because it increases blood flow to the area and perhaps the warmth helps keep ligaments and muscles flexible and loose. Simple solution, but took a while to figure out. Hopefully this helps someone reading this.

That's very interesting, your report and those in the comments mentioning warmth. I'd some years ago experienced RSI problems and rectified it with neoprene "wrist braces"; while they didn't provide a huge amount of support, just some mild compression, they were certainly warm.

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Post by est »

melling wrote: post #2

“I type fast enough that I have never had much use for snippets in my text editor. Perhaps if I’d used them more effectively, I would not have developed the RSI symptoms that I have!" Often we have discussions about advanced code completion on HN. Many developers feel they don’t need it, or that it gets in their way, for example. Reading stories like this convinces me even more that our editors (tools) need to be sma…

I found that Kite is comparable with Tabnine, at least with Python.

https://kite.com/integrations/kite-vs-tabnine/

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Post by orpheansodality »

ijidak wrote: post #4

FYI, I thought my programming career was over due to RSI. Now, I only type while wearing long-sleeves. And of course, I still have to take regular breaks. I no longer suffer RSI symptoms. I'm guessing because it increases blood flow to the area and perhaps the warmth helps keep ligaments and muscles flexible and loose. Simple solution, but took a while to figure out. Hopefully this helps someone reading this.

Same, I had debilitating RSI for years, to the point where I was using voice recognition and a foot mouse, but all symptoms went away once I started wearing hoodies to work. As soon as I use a computer with bare arms though it all comes right back.

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Post by elorant »

Filligree wrote: post #52
elorant wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have one with the ball at the top (logitech marble) so no problems there.

I use one of those at work, and a mouse at home. I like to think mixing up the motions helps, but honestly it's because I'm not nearly precise enough to game with a ball.

You can try one of the Kensingtons. The ball is quite large to allow precision moving.

https://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Expert-Wireless-Trackball-...

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Post by aidenn0 »

jakemal wrote: post #45
AstralStorm wrote: post #41

This article could use a better title. Voice coding makes me think of audio compression for voice. This is programming using voice recognition instead.

Isn't that voice en coding?

Speech coding actually (though a "vocoder" may be used as part of speech coding):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_coding

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Post by azinman2 »

You gotta be careful not to get RSI in your vocal chords. I almost did when I tried voice coding years ago. For me at least, it tends to shift to whenever “work” is being done. Same thing happened when I experimented with eye tracking.

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Post by Gaelan »

est wrote: post #63
melling wrote: post #2

“I type fast enough that I have never had much use for snippets in my text editor. Perhaps if I’d used them more effectively, I would not have developed the RSI symptoms that I have!" Often we have discussions about advanced code completion on HN. Many developers feel they don’t need it, or that it gets in their way, for example. Reading stories like this convinces me even more that our editors (tools) need to be sma…

I found that Kite is comparable with Tabnine, at least with Python. https://kite.com/integrations/kite-vs-tabnine/

Is Kite's behavior still as shady as it used to be?

Re: On Voice Coding

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Post by est »

Off topic, but I really wish to find out any Alexa-like "smart speakers" capable of voice programming.

For example:

1. I would like to command the speaker listen for a keyword like the Fizz Buzz Test[1] if I counted to certain number.

2. Ask the speaker to remind me of something when hearing certain topics during a conversation. Much like the "if" keyword in text based computer programming languages.

3. Program a poem into the speaker over the microphone, tutor my kids to memorize it, correct the wrong parts. Share the snippet to other parents. program simple home made riddles and tests over voice.

4. The ability to store certain list/map structure as global variables. e.g. asking the speaker, who is the second oldest son in this family? Who got up first this morning?

5. Voice memos and search engine. Stored and indexed securely offline on my home NAS.

[1]: https://wiki.c2.com/?FizzBuzzTest

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Post by WalterSear »

ijidak wrote: post #4

FYI, I thought my programming career was over due to RSI. Now, I only type while wearing long-sleeves. And of course, I still have to take regular breaks. I no longer suffer RSI symptoms. I'm guessing because it increases blood flow to the area and perhaps the warmth helps keep ligaments and muscles flexible and loose. Simple solution, but took a while to figure out. Hopefully this helps someone reading this.

I used biking sleeves under my shirt.

https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1j2LQSFXXXXcCXXXXq6xXFXXXj/WES...

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