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Re: Iran lawmaker says 50 dead from coronavirus in city of Qom

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Post by koheripbal »

jacquesm wrote: post #129
wcoenen wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What exactly worries you about mass hysteria and panic? Why would that be worse than what is likely to happen as Covid-19 spreads outside of China? Think houses getting torched because the inhabitants are suspected of having the virus. Judging from what happened in Ukraine, we're getting closer to that kind of hysteria. https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-riots-erupt-in-ukraine-as-...

Morons. Ukraine has 0 confirmed cases as of today. Though there obviously may be cases there this is beyond ridiculous.

Countries like Ukraine will not report cases - even if they know they have them.

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Post by rasz »

jacquesm wrote: post #129
wcoenen wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What exactly worries you about mass hysteria and panic? Why would that be worse than what is likely to happen as Covid-19 spreads outside of China? Think houses getting torched because the inhabitants are suspected of having the virus. Judging from what happened in Ukraine, we're getting closer to that kind of hysteria. https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-riots-erupt-in-ukraine-as-...

Morons. Ukraine has 0 confirmed cases as of today. Though there obviously may be cases there this is beyond ridiculous.

So does Poland. Poland has >400 'suspect cases' as of right now, and strict protocol of testing only patients who have been to China/Wuhan. Despite this everything is fine make believe we had 2 hospitals disinfected yesterday, 'just in case' according to authorities, but still no tests. Whats more Poland doesnt even have tests available locally. Our hospitals were sending samples to Switzerland. Ukraine simply doesnt test anyone, even suspected cases with direct Wuhan link.

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Post by WA »

hurricanetc wrote: post #145
tiborsaas wrote: post #27

With the 150+ Italian cases (3 dead), it's probably safe to say that the virus is out of our control... which we probably never had. https://apnews.com/32540d09ec101aac057660ef1b0aa970

We could have stopped it completely with total travel bans but the WHO advised against it because it could be damaging to the world economy. Why is the WHO concerned about the economy? Well I have no idea. And is this virus going pandemic going to be more or less economically painful than the travel bans might have been? My guess would be we will feel significantly more pain from a pandemic.

> "Why is the WHO concerned about the economy?"

Don't you see that this is always a tradeoff? If the economy tanks, people lose their jobs, which could result in a lot more social unrest than if a virus spreads around the world.

I think it's tough to contain a virus like that with such a long incubation time. But the early efforts might have slowed the virus down somewhat at first, giving us more time to develop vaccines.

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Post by koheripbal »

jarmitage wrote: post #41

Reminder that WHO publishes a daily situation report about COVID-19, which is calmer and more informative than most headlines/media stories: https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2...

Any organization that claims travel restrictions don't slow virus spreads are beyond incompetent.

Moreover, their blind acceptance of official Chinese data is so naive, it is ludicrous.

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Post by thinkingemote »

hurricanetc wrote: post #145
tiborsaas wrote: post #27

With the 150+ Italian cases (3 dead), it's probably safe to say that the virus is out of our control... which we probably never had. https://apnews.com/32540d09ec101aac057660ef1b0aa970

We could have stopped it completely with total travel bans but the WHO advised against it because it could be damaging to the world economy. Why is the WHO concerned about the economy? Well I have no idea. And is this virus going pandemic going to be more or less economically painful than the travel bans might have been? My guess would be we will feel significantly more pain from a pandemic.

Travel bans were also advised against for another reason: People will always break the travel ban, and they will actively avoid law enforcement especially when they get sick, meaning that infections will spread worse and be harder to control than if you let people in but keep a track of them. Restrict and monitor is better than a ban.

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Post by jobigoud »

londons_explore wrote: post #95
afthonos wrote: post #47

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I don’t know in what way it isn’t treated as a big deal. There are daily updates from every country; the news covers the epidemic in detail; China quarantined tens of millions of people; major trade shows are being cancelled. Unless you literally mean bubonic-plague levels of panic, I’m not sure what else remains to be done in places where the disease has not yet fully spread.

I personally know experts in virology who are not working on a vaccine for this virus. Until all labs, equipment and experts are reassigned from whatever they are doing to finding a vaccine or cure, humanity is far from 'maximum response'. Assuming that world leaders are working in the best interests of their populations, that leads me to believe that whatever these experts and labs are currently studying is consider…

You realize there are other diseases right? There is a world of difference between thinking it's a big deal and "reassigning all labs equipments and experts from whatever they are doing to finding a vaccine or cure". This would stall progress on so many other important stuff that it would cause much more damage than it's trying to prevent.

As an example, there is currently the worst epidemic of dengue in South America's history right now. (3 million infected and 1500+ deaths in 2019). https://www.bbc.com/mundo/noticias-51496280

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Post by WA »

surge wrote: post #174
hurricanetc wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We could have stopped it completely with total travel bans but the WHO advised against it because it could be damaging to the world economy. Why is the WHO concerned about the economy? Well I have no idea. And is this virus going pandemic going to be more or less economically painful than the travel bans might have been? My guess would be we will feel significantly more pain from a pandemic.

I think its pretty obvious the WHO just repeats whatever the CCP wants them to say. I trust the CDC, and the CDC is preparing for something very serious, not something akin to the flu.

You know what's serious? If the entire population is scared shitless and runs to the next hospital and overwhelms the system. This is a lot scarier than the actual infections.

I know nothing about the CDC, but of course any health care organization prepares for "something very serious" that comes on top of the existing flu cases, because hospitals are already at close to maximum capacity.

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Post by raducu »

hurricanetc wrote: post #145
tiborsaas wrote: post #27

With the 150+ Italian cases (3 dead), it's probably safe to say that the virus is out of our control... which we probably never had. https://apnews.com/32540d09ec101aac057660ef1b0aa970

We could have stopped it completely with total travel bans but the WHO advised against it because it could be damaging to the world economy. Why is the WHO concerned about the economy? Well I have no idea. And is this virus going pandemic going to be more or less economically painful than the travel bans might have been? My guess would be we will feel significantly more pain from a pandemic.

>Why is the WHO concerned about the economy?

What do you mean why?

Wasn't there recently some news about a US official threatening some UN high figure?

Re: Iran lawmaker says 50 dead from coronavirus in city of Qom

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Post by saiya-jin »

jamesrcole wrote: post #61
WJW wrote: post #30

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Everyone who had history in high school has historical information about this. There have been numerous plagues throughout history with higher infectivity, higher lethality, and both relatively and absolutely higher death counts. Don't put the burden of looking up simple and easily findable information on other posters when you can easily google it yourself.

> Everyone who had history in high school has historical information about this I don't recall any such information. There's people on this site of all different ages, who grew up in all sorts of different places. How do you know what their high-school history covered? In my school, history was mandatory in the first year of high-school, and I think it might have been in the second year as well. Hardly anyone did it…

What kind of backwardish 3rd world country are you from that you never heard in school terms like 'black death', 'spanish flu'?

Even if you didn't, I've noticed it in practically all possible media hundreds of times in all possible topics.

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