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Which of these Amazon Prime purchases are real?

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Re: Which of these Amazon Prime purchases are real?

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For the products that are actually regulated like the child support seats: hold Amazon liable for selling product that is illegal . Make it expensive for Amazon to not police the shit that third parties are throwing on the marketplace - and soon you won't see any fakes any more. You want to know where Bezos got his billions? Partially because Amazon outright shits on all the regulation that traditional brick and mort…

> offensive

Ugh.

Re: Which of these Amazon Prime purchases are real?

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Gutsy for them to write such an article when they rely so much on affiliate links. Definitely makes me respect The Wire Cutter much more. Maybe does their article imply that as long as you purchase through their recommended links you'd be safe(er)?

> Definitely makes me respect The Wire Cutter much more. I'll probably respect them more when they stop hypocritically linking to Amazon. > Maybe does their article imply that as long as you purchase through their recommended links you'd be safe(er)? The article implies that, but it's not true.

The article implies that, but it's not true.

It's at least mostly true. They usually link to the official seller, so while it's possible they either get that wrong, or the seller starts shipping the wrong product it at least saves some of the work.

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Too expensive for most products. Simply limit "review rights" to users who have made a certain amount of purchases, are already subscribed for a certain amount of time, etc.

Why do you feel the process would be too expensive for most products? That is, let's say the review process might cost the merchant $5,000 on a one-time or biannual basis or whatever--does that seem like an unreasonable charge to take reasonable care that the products offered on the marketplace are authentic, of good quality, etc.?

I'll bite: Honest reviewer says that product works fine...for the first week or month. Wait for a year before allowing them to sell? Not doable especially on millions of new products.

Maybe reviews should be limited only to certified buyers or only those should be added to stars /rank.

Re: Which of these Amazon Prime purchases are real?

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We had to steamroller all of Chesterton's fences to figure out which ones we'd miss.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Chesterton%27s_fence thanks for the reference as it's often seen in many places of society and culture

Wow. First time reading this as well, and there is such wisdom in it.

It is doubly apt considering what is going on in the political realm currently as well. Not a lot of understanding or willingness to fix things within the constraints of a system, just promises to tear it all down and replace it with utopian versions.

Re: Which of these Amazon Prime purchases are real?

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It's funny: I always thought the Internet and platforms like Amazon with the collaborative reviewing system would make brands more and more obsolete, because you could just pick high-quality products from smaller manufacturers by looking at user reviews. Now I find that I rely more and more on brands to decide which things I buy, because I simply cannot trust user reviews in most of the cases. Recently there are more…

> Really a shame that Amazon does not seem to care much about this, maybe a chance for the smaller shops to take back some lost business though. I find that I buy more in smaller e-commerce shops, because I find they're much less affected by the review fraud and often ship things just as fast as Amazon.

And this will effectively be Amazon's undoing. Given how much central power and authority they control over global retail, this is a good thing. Competition is good for the consumer.

Re: Which of these Amazon Prime purchases are real?

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I'll bite - how would them caring make any difference in terms of quality of "fake" reviews? The way I see it the problem is unsolvable. There is no mathematical way to absolutely determine truth of reviews and it is fundamentally an arms race. No measure they could do could keep it true and free of deception.

The problem is mostly solvable. Review quality went downhill when Amazon decided to let 3rd party sellers run rampant, in order to boost their margins. A decade ago or earlier, when they had a handle on their supply chain, the reviews were pretty reliable. They can always go back to that model, but the smell of a greenback is too intoxicating for this to happen. Notice that Walmart, Newegg and other wannabees are goi…

> Notice that Walmart, Newegg and other wannabees are going down the same route.

Best Buy Canada now too. It's dramatically worse to use the Best Buy Canada website than the Best Buy USA one.

Re: Which of these Amazon Prime purchases are real?

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This happened to me the first time this Christmas. Bought a $25 electric doodad that was "sold by Amazon" for a family member and it was obviously a fake. It came in a very generic white box with the company logo stamped on it, inside was a product that looked completely different and was non-functional. Not only that, but the product was difficult to return (I had to contact support) which makes me suspect Amazon kn…

They'll actually pro-rate refund for your remaining time with prime if you cancel. At least they did for me.

Can you actually cancel? When I did, they had an obnoxious dark pattern where there was no visible option to disable auto-renewal, but going through the cancellation flow just disabled auto-renewal.

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> Definitely makes me respect The Wire Cutter much more. I'll probably respect them more when they stop hypocritically linking to Amazon. > Maybe does their article imply that as long as you purchase through their recommended links you'd be safe(er)? The article implies that, but it's not true.

How would you like them to pay for their writing?

I pay for both Consumer Reports and Protégez-Vous, I'd probably pay something similar for wirecutter.

Re: Which of these Amazon Prime purchases are real?

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It's funny: I always thought the Internet and platforms like Amazon with the collaborative reviewing system would make brands more and more obsolete, because you could just pick high-quality products from smaller manufacturers by looking at user reviews. Now I find that I rely more and more on brands to decide which things I buy, because I simply cannot trust user reviews in most of the cases. Recently there are more…

> Really a shame that Amazon does not seem to care much about this No, no, no! They do care, and a lot! Amazon has been busy catching up to, and undercutting Alibaba on China-US direction for the last 5 years. Amazon has managers whose full time job is to poach vendors from Alibaba. I'm getting spammed by their salespeople non-stop

Both eBay and Amazon have abandoned their own core business models and are trying to become second-rate clones of Alibaba.

The snag is that they aren't headquartered in mainland China.

Re: Which of these Amazon Prime purchases are real?

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This happened to me the first time this Christmas. Bought a $25 electric doodad that was "sold by Amazon" for a family member and it was obviously a fake. It came in a very generic white box with the company logo stamped on it, inside was a product that looked completely different and was non-functional. Not only that, but the product was difficult to return (I had to contact support) which makes me suspect Amazon kn…

They'll actually pro-rate refund for your remaining time with prime if you cancel. At least they did for me.

Then every time you try to make a purchase as a former prime user you will hit failed captcha after failed captcha, and a mandatory "would you like to try prime" window with a 'no thanks' click through in size 8 font. Sometimes I have to use a different browser if I fail the captcha too many times and amazon crudely attempts to lock me out.
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