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Past Time to Tell the Public:It Will Probably Go Pandemic, We Should Prepare Now

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Re: Past Time to Tell the Public:It Will Probably Go Pandemic, We Should Prepare Now

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Wish getting meds in advance were more accessible.

With few exceptions, you should be able to ask your MD for a 90 day supply with 3 refills (enough for 3 months immediately, with refills for the rest of the year).

But the exceptions are the things you really don’t want to be running out of. Which is extremely unfortunate and silly given that those who want to source these things illicitly will do so and those who follow the rules will suffer.

Re: Past Time to Tell the Public:It Will Probably Go Pandemic, We Should Prepare Now

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Astute observation. 1 and 2 apply to marginalized communities but 3 and 4 do not.

I think you see point 3 come through in the discussions talking about privilege and lived experience. It's a natural step after point 1 or 2 where the dominant group rebuts with "well it works for me, so it should work for you", and the minority group provides their theories as to what results in them having a different outcome.

>I think you see point 3 come through in the discussions talking about privilege and lived experience.

That's not the kind secret information preppers and conspiracy theorists lay claim to

Re: Past Time to Tell the Public:It Will Probably Go Pandemic, We Should Prepare Now

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post #77

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Sounds like the people who thought there would be a supply disruption were right, and the people who didn't see it coming are blaming the people who did see it coming.

No, sounds like there wasn't any "supply disruption", rather a "demand excess" from people who thought there might be one. Those are different things. Bill Gates could cause a potato shortage if he started buying up all the potatoes in America. But that wouldn't be a supply disruption if farmers are still growing potatoes at the usual rate.

Probably illegal for him to do it with onions though.

Re: Past Time to Tell the Public:It Will Probably Go Pandemic, We Should Prepare Now

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post #150

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Yep, I'm on a medication that is commonly abused so they only allow 30 day prescriptions, and you can't pay with cash, it has to go through insurance.

I imagine such medications must be very important to take as prescribed, but the only other option I can think of is one day out of every two/three/four weeks, take less of it so that you can save it and slowly stockpile it.

It's an ADHD medication, so there's no health risk associated with not taking it, they're just really strict about the amount given out at once because they don't want people getting a 90 day supply and selling it. Sometimes I won't take it on weekends to keep some extra just in case I might not be able to get a prescription filled on time due to no doctor appointments being available, or the pharmacies being out of stock for a few days.

Re: Past Time to Tell the Public:It Will Probably Go Pandemic, We Should Prepare Now

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Pretty sure you are kidding, but for the benefit of future readers: > Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor

Was not kidding and thank you :)

I just assumed because what you wrote fit so well with Hanlon's razor :)

Re: Past Time to Tell the Public:It Will Probably Go Pandemic, We Should Prepare Now

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CDC says no facemask isn't necessary for healthy people. Apparently https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/prevention-t... > facemaskst “end up creating a false sense of security and most people don’t wear them appropriately,” https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-cdc-says-americans-don...

Face masks don't prevent highly-infectious airborne viral diseases from being caught by healthy individuals, they mainly reduce the chances of an infected person spreading it more. This panic buying of face masks and toothpicks to press elevator buttons is hygiene theater. If you're sick, stay home. The. End.

They can. You need to buy surgical respirators instead of surgical masks. They look fairly similar. Masks prevent you spreading the disease to others. Respirators prevent you spreading the disease and others spreading it to you.

Re: Past Time to Tell the Public:It Will Probably Go Pandemic, We Should Prepare Now

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Before you propagate this information and take action, read this post about the psychology of fear mongering, and ask yourself if you identify with it. 1. Do you tend to mistrust authority? 2. Do you feel powerless to control the course of your life? 3. Do you feel like you have special information and insight the rest of us do not? 4. Do you feel comfort when thinking about the end of the world because once it happe…

This is hilarious. Isn't 2012 the underlying model they use for everything today? Fearmongering is the go-to default for absolutely every issue the media covers. Then during an actual literal pandemic they take a short break from every other the-world-is-ending story to give us the "don't fearmonger" lecture. If you ever find yourself split in doubt between your own sanity and that of the media's, please for the love…

Heh... maybe we should be very afraid when a media known for fearmongering tells us to remain calm.

Re: Past Time to Tell the Public:It Will Probably Go Pandemic, We Should Prepare Now

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Before you propagate this information and take action, read this post about the psychology of fear mongering, and ask yourself if you identify with it. 1. Do you tend to mistrust authority? 2. Do you feel powerless to control the course of your life? 3. Do you feel like you have special information and insight the rest of us do not? 4. Do you feel comfort when thinking about the end of the world because once it happe…

This seems to just be a set of general steps for the dominant culture to downplay dissenters or individuals for whom the system isn't working. It doesn't tell you anything about if the system is actually working or not, or if those individuals are right or wrong. Anyone who disagrees with the system will probably go through similar feelings (maybe not point 4). You could put yourself in the position of someone who gr…

I think you misascribe the intent here; in medicine, symptoms and circumstances are correlative (and must be interpreted in a manner consistent with that). For example, chest pain correlates with heart attacks but many other causes exist as well and not everyone will display the same symptoms.

The list above is merely a set of correlations. It may be useful to consider, but must be interpreted appropriately in a given context.

Re: Past Time to Tell the Public:It Will Probably Go Pandemic, We Should Prepare Now

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Before you propagate this information and take action, read this post about the psychology of fear mongering, and ask yourself if you identify with it. 1. Do you tend to mistrust authority? 2. Do you feel powerless to control the course of your life? 3. Do you feel like you have special information and insight the rest of us do not? 4. Do you feel comfort when thinking about the end of the world because once it happe…

Have you seen the spread in Italy?

Or Iran, for that matter.

https://time.com/5789360/iran-coronavirus-death-toll/

8 dead on 43 cases suggests severe under-reporting of the number of people infected. That in turn suggests that testing is inadequate which may cause the disease to spread further than necessary. The fact that infected Iranians have turned up in Lebanon and Canada is further proof that the number of infections is likely higher than reported.

If we take the 2-3% mortality reported elsewhere as the base than the 8 people confirmed dead would suggest at least 300-400 infections, or about 8 times higher than officially reported by the Iranian authorities.

Re: Past Time to Tell the Public:It Will Probably Go Pandemic, We Should Prepare Now

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Ask the doctor to write your prescription for three months. Call up insurance company and get a "vacation" flag/whatever which will pay for three months. (Source: I used to do this)

Great now try it with Adderall. It won’t be allowed.

Just because not everyone will be able to do it for every medication does not mean that it is not good advice for those who can act on it. It keeps healthy people from needlessly exposing themselves to higher risk of illness by standing in long pharmacy lines with potentially sick people, and it makes lines shorter for sick people who need to go to the pharmacy.
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