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Past Time to Tell the Public:It Will Probably Go Pandemic, We Should Prepare Now

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Re: Past Time to Tell the Public:It Will Probably Go Pandemic, We Should Prepare Now

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Before you propagate this information and take action, read this post about the psychology of fear mongering, and ask yourself if you identify with it. 1. Do you tend to mistrust authority? 2. Do you feel powerless to control the course of your life? 3. Do you feel like you have special information and insight the rest of us do not? 4. Do you feel comfort when thinking about the end of the world because once it happe…

I wonder how those questions would be answered by that doctor that tried to ring the alarm but was silenced.

Re: Past Time to Tell the Public:It Will Probably Go Pandemic, We Should Prepare Now

#52

The premise of this article is that we should essentially press the “panic button” now, to get people through the shock of preparing for a pandemic while we know it’s safe to do so. > Suggesting things people can do to prepare for a possible hard time to come doesn’t just get them better prepared logistically. It also helps get them better prepared emotionally. It helps get them through the Oh My God (OMG) moment eve…

The specific advice for food storage is "weeks" not couple months - the couple months is directed at prescription meds. The different timelines allocated is likely due to the relative feasibility, the risk of running out, and the ease of resupply.

Advising people to store food en masses is quite irresponsible. We have had rice, noodle, pasta, bleach and toilet paper shortages for around a month in Hong Kong caused by panic buying triggered by a rumour that there would be a supply disruption. We also went weeks where all of the fresh food was being bought out and frozen.

Re: Past Time to Tell the Public:It Will Probably Go Pandemic, We Should Prepare Now

#53
post #44

At the risk of going full doomsday mode (and besides stockpiling on food and masks) - lets say pandemic happens and some useful meds/vitamins do go out of stock - is there any advice what those are i.e. what kind of meds/vitamins would be practical to buy right now to help fight/slow COVID-19/infection in the future?

Fish antibiotics

Re: Past Time to Tell the Public:It Will Probably Go Pandemic, We Should Prepare Now

#54

We will see. The graphs of numbers of confirmed infected all seem to be bending down, but of course there's the possibility of biases like unreleased numbers and incomplete testing. I guess we will know in a few weeks which direction it is going to go. That being said, with death being so rare among the young, I don't see why most people should panic more than they do about flu season. Obviously it is a serious conce…

> That being said, with death being so rare among the young, I don't see why most people should panic more than they do about flu season. This is my thoughts why Covid-19 is much more dangerous than seasonal flu: first it is much more virulent, and hard to detect, many of the infections in Korea were due to one 61 years old woman alone. Secondly the mortality rate is higher too, estimated at 2-3%, with the serious ca…

> Secondly the mortality rate is higher too, estimated at 2-3%, with the serious cases at around 10% (please correct me if I am wrong).

I don't think we actually know that for sure. The flu mortality rates that get tossed around are the overall mortality rates, but for COVID-19 as far as I know we only know the mortality rates among those who have tested positive. Especially in a situation like what's going on, this is going to be a heavily biased sample.

Fwiw I'm not advocating idleness or putting our heads in the sand. I think taking extreme measures to prevent the spread of this disease and eradicate it is smart. I am just hoping people can keep things in perspective.

Re: Past Time to Tell the Public:It Will Probably Go Pandemic, We Should Prepare Now

#55

We will see. The graphs of numbers of confirmed infected all seem to be bending down, but of course there's the possibility of biases like unreleased numbers and incomplete testing. I guess we will know in a few weeks which direction it is going to go. That being said, with death being so rare among the young, I don't see why most people should panic more than they do about flu season. Obviously it is a serious conce…

> That being said, with death being so rare among the young, I don't see why most people should panic more than they do about flu season. This is my thoughts why Covid-19 is much more dangerous than seasonal flu: first it is much more virulent, and hard to detect, many of the infections in Korea were due to one 61 years old woman alone. Secondly the mortality rate is higher too, estimated at 2-3%, with the serious ca…

This is spot on and a pretty realistic way to look at what is happening. What goes for Iran goes for large swaths of Africa, Latin America and Asia as well.

Re: Past Time to Tell the Public:It Will Probably Go Pandemic, We Should Prepare Now

#56

Before you propagate this information and take action, read this post about the psychology of fear mongering, and ask yourself if you identify with it. 1. Do you tend to mistrust authority? 2. Do you feel powerless to control the course of your life? 3. Do you feel like you have special information and insight the rest of us do not? 4. Do you feel comfort when thinking about the end of the world because once it happe…

Regardless of the other three points, it is generally rational to mistrust authority because many authorities have repeatedly failed in the past to protect lives during emergency scenarios.

Re: Past Time to Tell the Public:It Will Probably Go Pandemic, We Should Prepare Now

#57

The premise of this article is that we should essentially press the “panic button” now, to get people through the shock of preparing for a pandemic while we know it’s safe to do so. > Suggesting things people can do to prepare for a possible hard time to come doesn’t just get them better prepared logistically. It also helps get them better prepared emotionally. It helps get them through the Oh My God (OMG) moment eve…

What medicine should we purchase? What antivirals work well on it?

Re: Past Time to Tell the Public:It Will Probably Go Pandemic, We Should Prepare Now

#58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this case, I guess we have to just trust the people that go through the most competitive and intellectually demanding decade of school and professional training on the planet. They have the benefit of being on the front lines themselves, with the lives of themselves and their coworkers at risk. edit: if it helps avoid distractions, let me say it is obviously not a "benefit" and medical professionals are underappre…

That's not a benefit. And given that these people will try to do their jobs even when under=equipped and understaffed they are paid too little to begin with.

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Re: Past Time to Tell the Public:It Will Probably Go Pandemic, We Should Prepare Now

#59
post #9

Recommendations for what individuals can do are buried but very practical: * Try to get a few extra months’ worth of prescription meds, if possible. * Think through now how we will take care of sick family members while trying not to get infected. Cross-train key staff at work so one person’s absence won’t derail our organization’s ability to function. * Practice touching our faces less. So how about a face-counter a…

I think we should replace handshakes with bows, but that would probably never fly in America.

Or replace it with Namaste - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namaste which is probably easier to do.

Re: Past Time to Tell the Public:It Will Probably Go Pandemic, We Should Prepare Now

#60

As Hacker News is usually full of people that can provide good advice: What should I personally do to prepare? I'm living alone and have the ability to work remotely once the virus starts spreading here. My guess is mostly stocking up on food, which I've planned to do for a long time - sounds like a good motivation to finally prepare a list and get shopping. Should I bother with a N95 mask? I already have surgical ma…

CDC says no facemask isn't necessary for healthy people. Apparently

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/prevention-t...

> facemaskst “end up creating a false sense of security and most people don’t wear them appropriately,” https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-cdc-says-americans-don...

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